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07-18-2005, 08:42 PM | #16 | ||
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maybe nissan changed the size of the bell housing during the run of the Z32s... thanks wes...i was waiting for you to do this.
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Something else to remember guys...
For those of you that may happen to be converting an N/A 2+2 to a TT make sure that you are prepared to spend slightly more money... about $700 more. TT swap was made to be a B***h just so people can change from liking a nissan to lusting for a nissan. Be safe patient and prepared to know that your going to make mistakes if you try new shortcuts without experience. Although the instructions seem simple there are many other things that your going to just have to learn on your own... Might I suggest Ordering your parts from anybody may seem like a good idea at first but trust me its not. There are people with money that are still thursty for more and really don't care how they get it so if your on a TT only budget, always be prepared to purchase other simple things that people don't care about you worrying about. i.e. bolts, nuts, and gaskets. Be sure to also check out everything when your ordering it. Chances are, especially if its your first swap, that many of the parts that your order are not only going to be difficult to find but once you do find them getting them to yourself once you need them... For instance you may have ordered your full engine and transmission but won't later discover that your transmission is missing your its bolts. Keep in mind what kind of car it is that you have, even though there may not be many in your area, there are many being used (parts wise). What this means is that your parts that you ordered have been around a few times. The dealer that you bought it from probably didn't have the 300 full body but probably just parts for it laying around. Mechanic shops that don't want to buy new parts usually dont care because they are just trying to make a sale. Finnaly as mentioned before this is not an easy swap so take your time, understand that nissan isn't a simple american small block, learn from your mistakes the first time please, and enjoy your new wonderful probably permanent new edition to your racing family. BTW: excellent post k3 Highly professional and clariful keep up the good work |
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07-18-2005, 09:05 PM | #18 | ||
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i think i will be ready to undertake the RB20DET in the Z31 next year wether or not you buy it. i think it will be fun to say the least.
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07-19-2005, 03:44 PM | #20 | ||
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people do it both ways...i believe that you had too but i also knwo there are people who havent. sorry to burst your bubble...
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07-19-2005, 03:48 PM | #21 | |
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Re: Twin Turbo Swap...
What do you mean buy 'shim'?
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So after this bit of mis-information I decided to go look at the first post of this thread and "critique". #1. Before you do ANYTHING to the car, disconnect and remove the battery. Once you jack the car up, place the car on solid jackstands in the correct locations (see service manual for locations). #2. Do not install your intercooler plumbing and A/C condenser before installing the engine/transmission. The risk of damage to them is very great while lowering the engine/tranny unit back into place. #3. Change out as much of the rubber hoses that are a total pain in the A$$ when the engine is in place BEFORE you install it. If you are keeping EGR, replace it with new, and clean the connecting pipes out thoroughly. Replace the PCV's. All of this maintenance is simple with the motor on the stand. #4. You are going to need the OEM recirc valves or aftermarket BOV's. These were not on the list. The turbos absolutely have to have these. #5. If you replace the engine mounts, replace the transmission mount. #6. Drain the oil out of the transmission BEFORE unbolting it from the engine. Unless you like having a couple of quarts of oil on you, on the floor, and all around you. Ignore this point if you love the smell of oilsorb clay and ATF or gear lube, or have an excess amount of shop rags you need to use. #7. Before you install the new motor, disconnect the steering shaft at the u-joint. The driver's side turbo will thank you. Quote:
That should do it for now. Not that I am trying to "burst your bubble" , but I HATE mis-information, especially the kind that could get somebody hurt... Last edited by NMZXTT; 07-19-2005 at 06:30 PM. |
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Re: Twin Turbo Swap...
maybe the differance in some people requiring grinding the bell housing and some not is, maybe nissan slightly changed the design from year to year, maybe after 93 it changed or something like that ??
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to avoid confusion i will refer to you as "Obnoxiously Large Ego" in the following post. if you feel violated or ashamed in any way...i have completed my task and will go on with my job, to write a basic outline of what a Twin Turbo swap will consist of. Quote:
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so im guessing that you have taken apart the transmission and measured and sent a sample to a laboratory, to determine that all of the gears are made out of the same metal, and you came to the conclusion that they were identical??? i doubt it, and if you did...get a life. that statement about the manual tranmission differences and such...is coming from Robert at Z1 motorsports. the leading business in Twin Turbo Conversions and such. they and many other people have stated numerous amount of times that the N/A 5-speed transmission does not seem to take well to bigger HP numbers but it seems to work fine for a lightly modified Twin Turbo. also, do some hunting around at TwinTurbo.net. there are many people over there like you (except for the overwhelmigly large ego) that have done a conversion and used their N/A transmission and simply had the shim made and it worked fine for them. as i am sure you didnt work for Nissan during the run of 90-96 300zx and if you did, i bet you had no involvement of what steps had been taken, so i advise you to do some research or keep your mouth shut if you do not KNOW. i personally am just repeating information that i have researched and what i have told you is completely true. i have read that people have done the conversion your way and i have read that people ahve done the conversion the way i am speaking of. if you have a problem, take it up with people i am speaking of. to wrap this up, for someone "who HATE[s] mis-information" i suggest you start by not using it yourself. i have not seen where i have told mis information but if you find it necessary to point out, im sure i will be happy to remove it for you or edit it. as i am also a person that does not like to be mis-guided so i try to answer people's questions to the best of my ability. but i also try to keep my ego from interferring with my way of thinking and problem solving.
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07-19-2005, 10:55 PM | #28 | |
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Re: Twin Turbo Swap...
Guys... This thread is on the edge of being closed.
I don't want to single anyone out, but chill. Seeming as there are only two people arguing in this thread, it should make it quite clear who I'm directing this towards. Keep this civil, and keep it intelligent... The obnoxious replies end HERE. If they continue, this thread is gone. Sorry, but I have to play Moderator here. -Wes
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07-19-2005, 11:16 PM | #29 | ||
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anyways, if you feel it gets out of hand...feel free to do whatever you find necessary.
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07-19-2005, 11:28 PM | #30 | |
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Re: Twin Turbo Swap...
Well I'm just telling you guys, keep it from getting out of hand. Because I, as the other members, are very interested in your project.
So I'm just letting you guys know... Don't take it personal. -Wes
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