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Old 08-07-2003, 06:21 AM   #16
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Max speed, etc, is all dependant on your driving ability (1/4 mile) and how you tune the engine. The LS can be a very very powerful engine, well over 400 HP properly built. A CR-V can be quick and powerful too. Here's a post I made a few days ago, but it should help you see what it possible with a LS. For the record, the turbo'd CR-V civic in jacksonville is 297 HP and 12.7 or 12.9 seconds. A LS can be equally as powerfull. Built properly, you can even break this 300 hp barrier. Here is some info of a 500 HP LS. Robbie Potts in San Deigo has a 500 HP Turbo'd LS-VTec integra (he has a full interior, nothing stripped). He built it himself, including the turbo system and all. He did it over 3 years ago too, way before the masses had discovered the LS-Vtec and CR-VTec. It is still running. Thats a 500HP LS-VTec Turbo (B16A head, LS block) He did some very creative things. He built the Turbo manifold himself using a pulse width thoery based on firing order to further help spool his turbo (turbonetics turbo, 60-1 compressor with a stage 5 exhaust wheel and 78 a/r housing, spearco intercooler). He uses a Federal Mogul Speed Pro stand alone fuel computer and 1,000 cc injectors, a setup that was used by Lisa Kubo and Papadakis. Since you generally generate more power if the wastegate dumps straight into the atmosphere, but it's very loud. He did it anyway, but silenced it using a 4-stroke Yoshimura motorcycle exhaust. Of course, he also rebuilt the internals for massive boost, etc . You can hit 500 HP if you build the motor right and provide the proper fuel dilivery system and fuel managment unit. Make sure you close the deck. On a side note, Jason Whitfeild, owner of Rage performance in cali has a 725 HP turbo'd 96 H22 civic hatch. It's street legal. Remember, you can make both the CR-V and the LS extremely fast and very powerful. It's all in how you build it as a whole package. Make sure you plan it out properly and contuine doing research before you start.
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Old 08-07-2003, 02:17 PM   #17
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Im sure you could get more than 297 out of a turbo B20. I saw a dyno of 274 from a NA CRVTEC.Im pretty sure it was on importbuilders.com but just went to look for it and the sites completeley different and I cant find it.
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Old 08-07-2003, 03:25 PM   #18
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which swap would be better for nitrous oxide? Im looking into that because i dont want spend $2,000 for a turbo, but i still want more power, so I thought zex was the way to go. but hey if you can find a turbo for around $500-$1000 tell me cuz i want to know

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How much of a shot of Nitrious Oxide are you looking for? Because IMO, I would recommend a Turbo waaayyyyy before Nitrious. For Nitrious, I don't think you should go above a 35 shot. There are some computerized system's which shut off if the nitriuos/fuel amount it too much, but for that price, I'd save up the rest for a turbo.
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Old 08-08-2003, 01:17 AM   #20
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Nitrous........don't worth it for the money........turbo last longer for better result.......
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Old 08-08-2003, 01:20 AM   #21
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Which turbo would you suggest me???? I heard a lot of good comments about Garrett......Anything better?????
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can someone tell me where i can find a turbo for under $1000 because i dont want to spend a buttload of money on an expensive turbo, where as i can get zex for about $500
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you cant get a turbo for under 1k, if you do your lucky, you need the turbo, the manifold, the downpipe, the extra fuel, the piping, the oil lines, the BOV, the wastegate.
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im just not up to saving $2000. im going to college in a couple years and i wont have time to street race as much as i want to. all that money will go to waste.
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naw, the turbo will still be there when you get out of school, and it will be more fun to drive while in college anyways. and 2k is actually cutting it close to get all new. mine for my ZC is just gonna be like 500 bucks though, cuz I already got the turbo froma friend, manifold is gonna cost me 20 bucks for the plate steel, tubes are free and friends making it, downpipe and piping are cost of materials as well, the IC is 40 bucks off a saab. the oil lines probably like 50 bucks, then theres the FMU for 100 and the missing link for 40. the BOV is 75.

instead of the missing link/fmu I might just get the SAFC.

but its reccomended to have a used turbo rebuilt but mine spins good and has no shaft play at all so im just gonna hope for the best
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Beofre we can recommned you a good turbo, there are a few things we need to know.
1)what is the Max HP output you are looking to achive
2)what is the engine you are starting with, and what is the HP

After this is know, you can figure out how much Bosst is required to achive the desired HP level. Then you can look at different turbo's and see what suits your needs. Someone looking to make 400HP, for exampel, will need a different Turbo that someone looking to make 210HP.
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I'd like to reach 300HP and over depending on the cost and I'll probably start with an LS. But I'm hesitating between LS and CRV so.....give me info on those 2. Thx
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Re: GSR or CR-V????

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I plan to put a turbo, headers, etc....
Dude quit wasting our time. You don't even know what you're talking about.
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Old 08-11-2003, 06:13 PM   #29
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hey.......if you find that you waste your time answering this post......well you just gotta leave this topic.......no one is forcing you here so...... stop being such an ass I'm newb in the world of tuning......I wanna learn just like anybody else who begins......The more informations I gather will make me understand things i didn't know before.......Did anybody here complains about me asking questions??? A forum is a way to learn new stuff from other's experiences.......You don't seem to know that when I wrote "I plan to put turbo, headers....etc" I was just giving an exemple to show i wanted to tune my engine to make it more powerful.....
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Haha, I understand man. I made the same mistake. A turbo doesn't have headers. Exhaust gases go straight to the turbine, then to the downpipe, cat, exhaust. On a non-turbo car, it'd go headers, cat, exhaust.
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