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Old 11-23-2003, 12:36 PM   #1
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Talking How To: simulate carbon fibre with paint

Hi here a tutorial to make carbon fibre without decals..... i will put in pictures when i get my digital camera working... materials are:

Nylon mesh (screen)
Flat black spray (or if you use airbrush airbrush paint)
Gloss black spray (look up )
The thing you want carbon fibreized

1.)Prepare the surface...(wash in warm water and let air dry)

2.)Paint the surface you want to look like carbon fibre FLAT BLACK

3.)LET DRY

4.)lay the mesh on the area... (NOTE:Make sure the screen is TIGHT against the suface [may require different paieces of screen for ridged surfaces])

5.)Spray thje area covered with mesh with GLOSS BLACK

6.)LEY DRY

7.)Take off the screen

8.)Wax,buff,clear cote if you want ( i dont )

Now you shopuld have a semi realistic carbon fiber typpe of thing
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Old 11-23-2003, 12:48 PM   #2
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Re: How To: simulate carbon fibre with paint

I'd rather just use the decals. It seems way easier that painting everything, then having to wait for everything to dry and stuff.

Good idea though.
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Old 11-23-2003, 01:39 PM   #3
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I'd rather just use the decals. It seems way easier that painting everything, then having to wait for everything to dry and stuff.

Good idea though.
Eugene, your just lazy; j/k That's a good idea, besides graphite metallic with is similar to cleared cf, btw, eugene, hows that rock crawler?
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Old 11-23-2003, 01:46 PM   #4
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I'd rather just use the decals. It seems way easier that painting everything, then having to wait for everything to dry and stuff.

Good idea though.
alot of people cant get the decals very easily...thx
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Old 11-23-2003, 03:23 PM   #5
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http://www.tamiya.com/english/howto/bike1/tip4.htm

http://www.tamiya.com/english/howto/car1/tip1.htm

If you buff flat black it's just going to come up shiny, how is flat black and gloss black going to look like C/F?
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Old 11-23-2003, 04:00 PM   #6
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http://www.tamiya.com/english/howto/bike1/tip4.htm

http://www.tamiya.com/english/howto/car1/tip1.htm

If you buff flat black it's just going to come up shiny, how is flat black and gloss black going to look like C/F?
the gloss black will still be shinyer....say flat black has a shiny valuer of 1 and gloss has 5... if you buff and add 3 to each... flat will be 4 and gloss 8... maybe that wasnty the best analogy
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Re: How To: simulate carbon fibre with paint

Yeah, but you can easily order them on-line and stuff.

The rock crawler is doing ok. I still haven't mastered the art of putty, so I'm still working on trying to get the reg. cab together, since it is still in two pieces. The chassis is about half done now. I still need a Silverado body, and I've been PMin Mike like every week about it, and he still won't reply. Not much work on it though because of school, and my new job.
Sorry about the hi-jack, back on topic now.
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I've always thought the mesh would be very, very difficult to do convincingly. To get the mesh to mask properly, it would have to follow the curves of the part exactly. If the mesh was say right against the part in one spot but in another was 2mm or 3mm, the paint sprayed through it would have very defined lines where the mesh touched, but the paint would diffuse quite a bit if there was any sort of gap and especially if the surface receded away from the mesh. I can't imagine that it would be a very effective way to simulate carbon fiber on a complex surface. The mesh is very hard to flex around the complex curves, and decals are a lot easier to get to follow the shape. But using an airbrush might be able to compensate. Still, decals would be much easier than spraying it, and I'd be really interested to see some sprayed carbon fiber all around some complex surface, to see how it comes out.
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o yea and by the way i didnt get my tut from there but ive nvr seen that on the tamiyas site... how do you get to that section?
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I've always thought the mesh would be very, very difficult to do convincingly. To get the mesh to mask properly, it would have to follow the curves of the part exactly. If the mesh was say right against the part in one spot but in another was 2mm or 3mm, the paint sprayed through it would have very defined lines where the mesh touched, but the paint would diffuse quite a bit if there was any sort of gap and especially if the surface receded away from the mesh. I can't imagine that it would be a very effective way to simulate carbon fiber on a complex surface. The mesh is very hard to flex around the complex curves, and decals are a lot easier to get to follow the shape. But using an airbrush might be able to compensate. Still, decals would be much easier than spraying it, and I'd be really interested to see some sprayed carbon fiber all around some complex surface, to see how it comes out.
i use the decals for complex surfaces (when i have the decal sheets) but i use this tecnique for smooth fat surfaces... like a hood
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o yea and by the way i didnt get my tut from there but ive nvr seen that on the tamiyas site... how do you get to that section?
It doesn't hurt to use the edit feature

The how-to's on Tamiya's site aren't hidden. On the English site scroll to the bottom of the page and there is a link there.
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Re: How To: simulate carbon fibre with paint

The silverado body's are kinda messed up. do you want the cab alone or the bed too? I think it also has putty on the body painted brown (to simulate mud). You can have it; you just have to pay for the shipping. I'll have to figure out how much shipping is though.
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Re: How To: simulate carbon fibre with paint

Hehehe... i havent done this yet but... do you guys went thru the tamiya mini 4x4 thing? well they have CF front & back plates and it'll prolly look good as cf wings... ??? dunno..
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Black on black ???? Never try it but seem a waste of time. Try black and silver then a smoke to do the top of it... That's the way I did the hood on this... and the black front spot is just the camera showing through the high gloss carbon fiber...
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