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Old 11-23-2003, 08:05 AM   #1
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Thumbs up 2004 Evo WRC pics.

Hi folks, most of you have probably seen these pics before and I don't know if they are official or not, but I thought they may interest some people on here, maybe some 'sucker for punishment' will build one?








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OVERALL LENGTH 4360 mm
OVERALL WIDTH 1770 mm
WHEEL BASE 2600 mm
TRACK FRONT AND REAR 1550 mm
WEIGHT 1230 kg

ENGINE MODEL 4G63, 4 cylinder, 16 valves DOHC turbo charged
BORE-STROK 85,5 x 86,9 mm
DISPLACEMENT 1996 cc
ENGINE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM Magneti Marelli, multi injection
MAXIMUM OUTPUT 300 PS / 5500 apm
MAXIMUM TORQUE 55 kg-m / 3500 rpm

CLUTCH Carbon triple plate
TRANSMISSION Ricardo/MMSP 4 wheel drive, 5 speed, limited slip differentials front centre and rear

MAX. SPEED 220km/h

SUSPENSION Front and Rear McPherson strut, coil springs, anti roll bar

STEERING Power assisted rack and pinion
BRAKES Brembo, ventilated disks 370 mm diameter tarmac, 300 mm gravel, 328 mm snow, 8 pot calliper tarmac, 4 pot gravel and snow

WHEELS ENKEI magnesium cast 8x18 tarmac, 7x15 gravel 5,5x16 snow

TYRES Michelin

FUEL TANK CAPACITY 90 litres

SEATS Recaro composit
COCKPIT Components Sabelt
INTERCOM SYSTEM & HELMETS Stilo
CAR DESIGN Using PTC Pro Engineer

* Submitted to FIA homologation
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Old 11-23-2003, 08:56 AM   #2
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Re: 2004 Evo WRC pics.

Overal look is great, but the Wing (look a lot like the 206 one) don't fit this car at all
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Old 11-23-2003, 09:04 AM   #3
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Re: Re: 2004 Evo WRC pics.

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Overal look is great, but the Wing (look a lot like the 206 one) don't fit this car at all
yes, agree. What is the problem with the wing??? can it really make any downforce?
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Old 11-23-2003, 09:07 AM   #4
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Re: 2004 Evo WRC pics.

That wing is a little bit weird, but everything else, I think looks pretty good. I like most of it.
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Old 11-23-2003, 10:23 AM   #5
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Why exactly IS there a rally forum on AF?
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Old 11-23-2003, 04:47 PM   #6
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Re: Re: Re: 2004 Evo WRC pics.

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yes, agree. What is the problem with the wing??? can it really make any downforce?

you can be sure they tested it a lot
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Old 11-23-2003, 04:54 PM   #7
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Honestly, the new Mitsu WRC is already being discussed in the rally section of AF, you are all welcome to join the discussion there:

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbul...71#post1339471
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Old 11-23-2003, 11:04 PM   #8
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Re: 2004 Evo WRC pics.

The wing is out of place
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Old 11-24-2003, 05:02 AM   #9
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Re: 2004 Evo WRC pics.

Looks great except for the rear wing as everybody has already mentioned. Very strange since you'd think the further back the more downforce it would generate. Only thing I can think of is that the lower element of the Peugeot style double wing needs to be in close proximity to the windscreen to operate. Either that or they don't want too much downforce at the rear in order to keep the car balanced.

Must be set up to allow for heaps of front wheel travel with those massive wheel arches and clearance.

WRC cars certainly seem to be getting more radical. First the new Focus and now this!
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Old 11-25-2003, 07:52 AM   #10
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Love it!! but once more...get rid of that wing!! A nice GT Scooby style wing will go down a treat on that.

The real question is...will Tamiya/Fujimi/Hasegawa make a kit of it??
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Old 11-25-2003, 09:36 AM   #11
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Re: 2004 Evo WRC pics.

Thought that I would let you guys know that I started building it over the weekend from the VII kit I had laying around. Will post pics when the front end is done.

As for the spoiler, the shape is to give some lateral force, if thats the right word. The force produced by a surface goes at 90degrees to that surface. This means that as the wing curves the force is pushing towards the centre of the car, increasing high speed straight line stability. Subaru achieved this with multiple vertical elements on their car.

As for the position, this is due to the lever effect, force x distance etc. The further away from the pivot (rear axle) the downforce is applied, the more weight or force is required at the front. This means that by moving the spoiler forward, they can massively increase downforce without requiring more weight at the front to prevent the steering lightening at high speed.

Maybe all my hours studying aeronautics in the airforce weren't wasted after all.

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Old 11-26-2003, 08:50 AM   #12
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Re: Re: 2004 Evo WRC pics.

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The wing is out of place
for me for the first look the wing looks preaty smart, I think it grabs "clean" and "fast" flowpath going from the roof of the car. another reason to move it forward is, maybe, to move point of applying aerodynamical force generated by the wing closer to the centre of gravity of the vehicle.
I agree it looks quite strange but I am sure they had good reason to do it this way
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Re: Re: 2004 Evo WRC pics.

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Thought that I would let you guys know that I started building it over the weekend from the VII kit I had laying around. Will post pics when the front end is done.
Awesome, maybe now we can get this thread moved back to the modelling forum!
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Re: Re: 2004 Evo WRC pics.

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Looks great except for the rear wing as everybody has already mentioned. Very strange since you'd think the further back the more downforce it would generate. Only thing I can think of is that the lower element of the Peugeot style double wing needs to be in close proximity to the windscreen to operate. Either that or they don't want too much downforce at the rear in order to keep the car balanced.

Must be set up to allow for heaps of front wheel travel with those massive wheel arches and clearance.

WRC cars certainly seem to be getting more radical. First the new Focus and now this!
although not a specialist in the aero-field, I also thought that it had to do with the proximity to the windscreen. Seems logical because otherwise the wind would probably drop too much if the wing is too far in the back.
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