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01-11-2002, 07:56 PM | #16 | |
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Yeah. Well I'm actually saving up money.
My parents say I only have to pay like 8/10 of the car then they will pay the rest of it. I'm also adding mods on it.
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01-11-2002, 08:00 PM | #17 | |
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Shut up Pete - wow..2 days!! Amazing!!! You're 2 days older than me!! you dork haha
Too bad you're in Canada and I can drive before you anyways Anyways...do you want to go all-motor? turbo? supercharger? I have to pay for my car...period. Only thing I get help with is insurance. Need a job this summer....
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01-11-2002, 10:17 PM | #18 | |
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Type R: Good luck getting the ITR, it's a real fun car. :alien2: I'd agree with madtown, headwork is the first thing I'd go for. The basic I/H/E would also work. Man I wish I were your age. I wasn't into the import scene until I was 16 (I'm 17 now) and had no plans on saving money for mods, a kickass car, etc. It's good that you and VTEC_boi are already planning out everything before you guys are of legal age. Good luck. :frog: :silly2:
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01-12-2002, 08:38 AM | #19 | |
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Hey thanks.
This is my become a racer plan. 14 years old. GET LEARNERS. 16 years old. GET LISCENCE AND TRACK LICENSE! 16 years old. CONVICE PARENT TO PAY FOR SOME OF INSURANCE FOR ME! 16 years old. PRACTICE RACING ON TRACK. 17 years old. JOIN A RACING TEAM. 17 - ? years old. WIN RACES.
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01-12-2002, 04:26 PM | #21 | |
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What is the difference between a FF Car and a FD Car?
What is FF? What is FD? To bad the Inter Type R is FWD. I have to read some more on drifting with FWD. I know how to drift more with RWD or AWD than FWD.
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01-12-2002, 08:48 PM | #22 | |
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FF = Front mounted engine..Front wheel drive
FR = Ffront-engine...Rear wheel drive FF cars aren't for drifting...that's called flipping Here's my plan: turn 15 in May get learner's get restricted start doing easy autoXes..losing turn 16 get liscense buy 99-00 Civic hatchy backy start modding and learning to drive from my friend Wade Motor swap from www.redime.com/swaps continue modding grow up become rich and famous Eventually convert my little hatchy to a full race (road race..that is) car. Buy a Skyline
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01-12-2002, 11:19 PM | #23 | |
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With enough HP and the proper suspension setup you can drift a FWD car. it does require a little more skill though.
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01-13-2002, 11:16 AM | #24 | |
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Honda ITR mods...
Go for the R if you can find one that hasnt been ragged out.
If it has been, then you can rebuild the sucker the way you want it. Keep in mind, the ITR is a marvel of engineering. Respect it and the GSR if you happen to get one from the start. If you try to get the GSR to perform like a Type R, you will spend more money in the process. If you are going to want an all motor car, go with the Type R. If you plan on a Supercharger or Turbo, GSR is a better place to start. All motor is definately more expensive to do as it takes knowledge of enginebuilding and alot of patience. Not to mention, you will have to get used to seeing the motor out of the car; not to mention paying for it. You are a young'n as we say in the states. If you dont already know how, learn how to drive fast safely. You sound like you have no shortage of money, I would suggest advanced driving school. If you plan on making a straight line acceleration car out of the Type R, you will be missing out on the joy of truly driving it. It has to be the best autocrossable car around for 20-25K. Oh, and Acura is a US only brand. Its a Honda everywhere else. =) happy motoring.
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01-13-2002, 06:22 PM | #25 | ||
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My thinking is that you can use the e-brake to initiate a drift by causing the rear wheels to slide. However, flat spots might occur on the rear tires because there is only a certain area of rubber that is in contact with the road. With the grippier front tires, you can point the car in the right direction and the crappy tires will simply slide out. That's how I think you can drift FF cars, but I'm not really sure.
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01-13-2002, 09:35 PM | #26 | |
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just a thought. take it or leave it...
All who hope to drift on the street...
take this as a tool and be happy and safe! I hope you plan on drifitng on the track, FWD drifts in an understeer and I hope you all know what that means. I am sure you know but here is the difference. The RWD cars out there that drift use what is called oversteer and essentially still utilizes the steering to point the car. The read end pushes the car out while sliding and shifiting the weight of the car over. In a FWD car, yes with sighter rear suspension can cause it to drift, but if you drift too far at the wrong speed, the car can catch and highside. This is a technique that needs to be learned on the track or a closed road. FWD you need to plan your understeer and start in the corner early, attacking the inside of the corner. If you do not drift correctly, you will slide off the apex of the corner! This usually means that other cars are coming too. If you can, learn how to use your brakes in your driving more effectively. It will actually make you a faster driver if you threshold brake in a straight line, come off the gas, turn in and then power out. Be sure to use both hands on the wheel and steer from your shoulders. This will insure adequate feedback will be arrested and the car will continue to take the line you want. If you have Z rated tires and even stock suspension, you will notice that the damn thing will stick like glue. I have stock susp on my GSR and Potenza RE730 205/50 ZR 15s. All in all, if you point the car correctly, you will notice the rear brakes out a bit, but beware that this is a risky way to drive on the street. Cops are less likely to arrest you for dragracing than taking a 2 lane turn at 55mph and exiting at 75+ in third. Oh, thats another thing... use a higher gear when exiting. Keep in mind that you are balancing 3 balls in the air with traction, steering/momentum of car, power and braking whenever you are in a maneuver like this. If you are all on your gas in 2nd for example at 5-6k rpm entering a corner, you are effectively making your car lighter by your engine taking the weight from the car off your suspension and tires. If you are in 3rd gear for instance after threshold braking, you use your suspension more effectively and ask less of your tires for lateral acceleration. You have more traction in reserve and you also engine brake less. So try it like this sometime. Enter wide and strong, downshift to 3rd while threshold braking at the friction point of your clutch IN A STRAIGHT LINE. Come off the gas as you approach entry point in a straight line, you will feel the car lift back up after you decompress your front shocks. It is at this point that you turn in, you have more traction in third and when the car is coming out of the corner you can downshift if necessary to second, but your exit speed will be sacrificed. Depending on my speed, I use 2nd and then upsift on the way out, but if I am in third, the car tends to drift more. NEVER hit your brakes in the least bit when the car is moving diagonally. This will cause the car to jacknife and highside. Trailbraking is the technique where you brake into a corner while the wheels are turned but this is a way advanced maneuver at speed. Any maneuvers like this are made for racing on a track. Enjoy and if you do be safe. I would hate to see someone get really hurt by a grocery hauling everyday person on the road obeying the laws coming the other way. MikeGSR
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01-13-2002, 10:37 PM | #27 | |
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Thanks.
That was a nice post. AWD uses understeer to right? When I get a Type R is it possible to change it from FWD to RWD?
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01-14-2002, 06:08 AM | #28 | |
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Anything is possible..is it smart? nope Money spent on that! Hell..but a Skyline
Drifting an FF car is dangerous as it causes the tires to liqufy. Which is why you drift. ABS (Anti-Lock Braking System) was created to make the tires not do this. Which is why they used to say pump the brakes. When "drifting" and FF car (aka ass dragging) you are basically liquifying the rear tires to eliminate the grip (also making a flat part in the tire). Therefore allow the speed of the car to swing the ass out. "drifting" mikesarr_gsr did a good explanation of how to do it.....
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01-14-2002, 07:32 AM | #29 | |
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Dude for a RWD you drift with your rear wheels. NOT with FWD.
With FWD you drift with your front wheels because it is FWD.
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01-14-2002, 04:17 PM | #30 | |
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Drifting w/ you front wheels?
I'd love to see that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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