Read if ur wondering about the 3sgte swap

[49cent]

which way is easier

[91 Celica St]

using ur 5sfe tranny for sure, all you have to do is use the 3sgte flywheel and disk and use the 5sfe plate, and ur tranny will bolt right up, and u can use ur existing half shafts withought custom fabricating new ones

[49cent]

so would it be cheaper to buy the all trac 3sgte or buy the mr2 motor and do it that way?? also would a good machanic be able to do this kinda work? i have so one thats going to do it but i dont know if a good machanic can do it? or a certain person is needed

[91 Celica St]

meh either way its relativly the sam,e scept the wiereing harness for the mr2 motor is alot longer sand its a little diffrent but still works the same way(with the same sensors) so id really try to get an alltrack motor then go for the mr2 is u really cant find one...

keep in mind with this swap youll never pass smog again, unless u find a usdm motor u wont have an egr valve to pass visual inspection

[49cent]

i live in cincinnati ohio and we really dont have to many problems with smog or anything like that. we do have emissions check every two years but i think they getting rid of that

[91 Celica St]

every state has a smog, some are just stricter than others (omg i hate california) but yea you still wont pass smog in any of the 50 states with this swap and it wont be street legal/be able to register it

[49cent]

okay thanx alot. um how do ppl get away with doing the swaps/ have you done one?

[91 Celica St]

i havent actualy DONE one myself, when i posted this articel no, before winter break i started helping my friend with his 3sgte swap, so yes i have HELPED with one, about 1/4 was done withoguht me there tho but im sure if you gave me the motor i could get it done in a week or so

[jeremykjones]

Hey, looking for a place to get a "fairly" new/slightly used 5SFE engine. I have a 1990 Celica GTS and the engine on it has some serious issues. Going to replace it and attempt to lay some rubber down with it in the future. I'm looking to see if there may be a 6 spd tranny out there anywhere that will work with this engine also. If so please post a link!!
Thanks,
Jones

[91 Celica St]

nope no 6 speed tranny that i can think of, except a st 215 cadelina that had a 3sgte witch had one but ud NEVER find one anyway so dont bother looking, ur better off getting an sw20 lsd tranny

[zieg]

I have a line on a 3sgte from an Mr2, and am really interested in buying it from the guy. I bought my 92 Celica GT from a guy I work with, and it's a great car. His brother (and whole family) is a toyota/lexus guy. He's had not 1, but 2 Mr2 turbo's. He mentioned that his first one got T-boned at an intersection, but the front was damaged. He said the car will start and move, but it's totaled from a bodywork standpoint. I asked him if I could by the engine.

I've read that the hardest part of the swap is the wiring harness and ECU. Would a MR2 harness and ECU work in a Celica? I imagine I could offer to buy the whole car off the guy, just to get it out of his way. Then I would have the engine, MR2 tranny, etc. Would still need a 3sgte turbo manifold for a celica?

I would look for an MR2 body, with a blown engine or something, but my parents (who pay my insurance) refuse to let me get a RWD car. So this is really the best route for me to go.

Any advice or comments would be greatly appreciated.

[91 Celica St]

yea its all swappable buts a lttle harder to do, the entire wiering harness needs to be modifyed becuase of the length of the wires, and yes yoiur need a new DP but the manifolds will work...youll also need a new exhast system

you can use the mr2 tranney ( i would suggest that anyway) but im not sure if u can use ur axles or not
1. im not sure if the case on the tranney is in the smae spot
2. there only rated at 135 Hp...
so plan on snapping a few halfshafts along the life of the car

good luck the weiring is a behatch

[49cent]

when i do the 3sgte swap will i be able to drive my car for everyday use with no problem

[91 Celica St]

yea assuming uve done everything correct and have bought all new things (like new halfshafts and wheel hub bearings etc) u gotta remeber ur WHOLE CAR is only rated at 135 Hp and its a unibody chassis so with almost double the Hp your gunna start tearin shit up faster, suspension, tires, evertyhign is going to wear faster

[jeremykjones]

Hey,

I know a ton of people have read this and i have been doing some serious searching and decision making and I really don't think i'm going to do a swap. I'm going to get my 5SFE rebuilt and tweaked with extras, and going from there. Just have one question, from the 3SFE what won't the 5SFE take?

Flywheel? Tranny? Fuel Rail/Pump? Water pump?

Are there really that many diffrences to these engines?

Thanks for all the help.


Jones