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01-23-2005, 07:56 PM | #1 | |
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96 T100 draglink warning
This is a warning about the drag link on the 96' Toyota T100. The part is also called the steering lnk rod. Mine snapped apart while I was driving, and I lost all steering control to both front tires. There have been other instances of this part failing, mentioned on the internet. One T100 owner posted pictures of the broken part, and it broke in the same place as mine. I believe there is a manufacturing defect on this part, and that anyone with a vehicle equipped with the part should be warned of a possible emergency loss of steering. If you own a 96' T100, and want
more details, reply to this thread. Toyota Customer Assistance does not admit there is a history of problems with this part, so they will not issue a recalll, which I asked for. |
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02-24-2005, 05:12 PM | #2 | |
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I have a '96 4x4, is there any info on this? Thanks! J
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02-25-2005, 12:19 AM | #3 | ||
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Re: 96 T100 draglink warning
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luck, and drive carefully. Greenguy: This steering relay rod was poorly manufactured. A machinist who looked at the two broken pieces agrees that the variation in coloring in the cross sectional portion of the rod indicates that the rod cooled faster on one side than it did on the other. He has tested the hardness of the rod and found it to be Rockwell Hardness of 14 at the fracture where it is colored reddish brown. The Rockwell Hardness measured at the other side of the fracture, where the color of the metal was silver, was 31. The difference in hardness shows that the rod was soft on one side, and hard on the other, and did not have the strength that it would have had if it had been forged to a high hardness all of the way through. The tempering process that was used on this part was incorrect. My first question for you is, what is the Rockwell Hardness supposed to be, for this part? I spoke to Nichole Redd, at Toyota Customer Assistance, on 12-9-04. Nichole said there is not a history of problems, on this part. If she did not have a history of problems with this part, there is a definite flaw in Toyota's database of repairs and customer complaints. The evidence presented below proves that there have been a number of instances in which the Steering Relay Rod failed, and customers notified Toyota. I am including printouts from "myCarStats.com" which lists complaints about the 1996 Toyota T100. Consumer Complaint: ODI Case Number 837207 lists the component: Steering Linkages. The Details of the complaint are: Consumer was pulling from a parking space and suddenly steering link bar snapped in half and came off, causing loss of steering, dealer has been contacted. The cause of the complaint is: Broken, shattered, cracked, split, collapse. The result is: inoperative. The MCS Check Date is: 3/25/2001. Consumer Complaint: ODI Case Number 10024713 lists the component: Steering Linkages. The Details of the complaint are: Consumer states steering linkages failed while backing out of the driveway, dealer notified. The fail date is 06/22/2003 Consumer Complaint: ODI Cas Number 10003827 lists he component Steering: linkages:rod:relay:connecting. The details of the complaint are: Steering rod cracked and showed evidence of a long term defect and old rust deposits. The fail date was 11/26/2002. This is documented evidence that there is a problem with the 1996 T100 steering components, and that my case is not an isolated incident. Further examples come from "http://www.4x4wire.com/forums/showflat.php? Cat=&Number=476959&page=&view=&sb=5&o=&fpart=2&vc= 1". Copies are included; H20_Man posted an comment, on 03/12/04, in which he says "I spoke to Marvin @ Toyota Customer Assistance (800 331-4331 ext. #3)" about the drag link/steering relay rod that broke on his T100. H2O_Man further writes, "The replacement rod is reported to beefed up in the area all of them have broken. That also tells me that Toyota is aware of the problem." H20_Man posted pictures, ( copies included ), that show his the broken relay rod on his truck, as well as a comparison between his original part and the replacement part. Note that, "The replacement rod is about 1/4" wider.", and "This failure has occurred on several trucks during low speed sharp left hand turns". The link to these pictures is http://www.athenswater.com/DL.htm. BIG-T, responding to H2O_Man writes, "That's odd, mine broke in the exact same spot" The pictures from H2O_Man show a failure of the steering relay rod that also matches the pictures I took of the broken part from my truck. One of your staff in the service department at Toyota of Santa Cruz informed me that he had seen four or five other Toyota T100s repaired at your dealership for the same problem: a broken rod, steering relay. He told me that I should be careful not to turn the steering wheel all the way, when I was backing out of a parking space, because that was the circumstance which most often caused the rod to snap. If one dealership has replaced steering relay rods on four or five T100s, there must have been thousands replaced worldwide. My second question for you is; how many of these parts have you sold. My third question is, how many of these parts have been sold by Toyota Corp. in total? I have maintained my T100 in excellent condition, since purchasing it as a Toyota Certified Pre-owned vehicle. All service was done by Santa Cruz Toyota, at the recommended intervals. The vehicle has not been involved in any frontal collisions, and there has not been any damage done to this part. The part failed due to poor craftsmanship/design, and it is a safety hazard. The fact that there was discoloration from, at the point of failure, indicates that this part may have been cracked sometime earlier. Since there is a history of failure of this part, Toyota should have been respons- ible enough to include it on the list of items to be inspected during the regular service. The cracked part could have been discovered during the last oil change, or the 90,000 mile service prior to that. My vehicle had less than 100,000 miles on it when my steering failed. This indicates a serious engineering flaw in the design of the steering components. In my discussions with friends and acquaintances, about this problem, they unanimously agree that a vehicle's steering components are the most critical parts, and that normal wear on a vehicle is considerably different than a part that snaps apart. It is commonly agreed that a vehicle, regardless of age or mileage, should be assumed to have steering components that will not fail, leaving the driver with no ability to steer the vehicle. I am apprehensive about driving this vehicle, now. I will always be worried that I could suddenly loose the ability to steer the vehicle, because I have no assurance that the replacement part will perform any better than the original. I am definitely disappointed with Toyota Corp. for allowing T100 owners to continue driving their vehicles with no forewarning that the steering could fail in such an abrupt and drastic fashion. It is only due to sheer luck that I wasn't traveling on the freeway when this happen. In fact, I was intending to take the freeway in a less than three miles. Toyota is acting negligently by not warning T100 owners of the documented failure of the steering relay rod. |
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10-12-2005, 06:40 PM | #4 | |
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Drag link warning
I had mine replaced as a recall item today. I was concerned that I may have had trouble with the part due to a noise that I heard whenever I turned the wheel to its limit. I will test the new part out next time I leave my driveway.
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04-29-2006, 02:42 PM | #5 | |
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Re: 96 T100 draglink warning
Mine just broke on me. Right off the pitman arm, luckly I was only do about 25 when it happened.
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06-21-2006, 05:44 PM | #6 | |
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Re: 96 T100 draglink warning
Toyota london uk just replaced relay rod in my 4runner 94 for free. in 30/03/06
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12-22-2006, 07:03 PM | #7 | |
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Re: 96 T100 draglink warning
Mr. T replaced mine. But I still get a giant "Clunk!" whenever I've got the wheels turned to the locks and go over a bump...
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01-03-2008, 04:56 PM | #8 | ||
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No, I'm in the 'sweet spot' of this truck's life. It isn't costing me anything except an oil change every 3000 miles (and recently, fan belts). It isn't using any oil at 260,000 miles, and still pulls as strongly as ever. Why would I give any money to ANY of the car makers at this point? I did a little calculation on my spreadsheet recently. In 1967 my 2 br house in N Seattle cost 15,000. That same house is about 350,000 now. That's an average of 8% per year. In 1967 a gallon of regular was 17 cents. It's now about 3.00. That's 8 per cent per year. In 1965 a new Mustang cost 1900. Now it's about 29000. If it had kept up with property and gas, it would be at 45,000 or so. My point is, the reason the car prices haven't kept up is because of competition from overseas. Without Toyota, Nissan, Honda and Hyundai, we'd be paying a minimum of 25,000 for the lowest end new car, and we wouldn't be driving any fuel-efficient cars. Likewise, a low-end McDonalds hamburger was 19 cents in 1965. It would be at $3.00 today if it kept pace. But the low end burgers today are $1.00 and you can't blame Japan for that. You get to blame Congress for not having minimum wage keep up with inflation. Personally, I send my money to Toyota not because it's cheaper but because they are the only cars I've ever had that last over 150,000 miles. My 99 corolla is now at 250,000, my 95 T100 is at 300,000, and my 99 Celica GT Convertible is at 125,000. I've never had a ford, chevy, or dodge last that long without serious difficulties. And my 01 MR2 Spyder at 40,000: for a $25000 car it can take on cars in the twisties that cost twice that much. I stand behind Toyota's quality. |
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I had mine replaced at no cost, hope that solves it. |
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