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Old 10-12-2004, 05:58 PM   #76
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Re: z32tt vs dodge srt4

Its The 2.5rs And To Do That Would Yeild Z As The King Now If You Said A J-spec Wrx Sti Spec Ra Type C Verse A Z32 The Z Would Be Obliterated And Has Been.
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Holy God...Wes, please help us out here...this is rediculous. We're not biased...we just know the facts...Me, Delerious, Broke, K3, Stealth, Freak, Samhain...all of us that call this forum our "home" on AF...we aren't here cuz we owe the Z something or cuz we feel like we need to be here, we're here because we truely believe that these are some of the best sports cars that have ever been built...or as Motor Trend said in 1990, "Dollar for dollar, the best damn sports car ever built." So either show some respect, quit saying rediculously stupid shit, and quit being so stubborn or find another forum to disrupt.

The Z32 weighs more than 3200-3300 lbs...a bit over 3500 according to R&T in Feb of 94. It really is quite heavy but you'd never know it by driving it. The STI is a great car that I do think has a lot of potential...but it does NOT handle "way better" than a Z32, if any at all...and I've MORE than proven that...so shut up already.

And no, Z31s don't weigh 3800lbs...what's wrong with you, man? Where do you get this shit from? You just pull numbers out of your ass?

I too have NEVER heard of 240s coming with HICAS in the US. Prove it, beotch before I pull out the BS flag and own your ass again. Even if they did at some point, you obviously still know NOTHING about the HICAS system.

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It Has No Benefit In My Mind And Its More Erratic Than Just Sliding The Rear.
It turns the rear wheels a max of ~3 degrees and it's all speed and turning angle dependant. All these stories of it running guys into the wall at drag strips and so on are just complete bullshit. They're just an excuse (a bad one at that) for shitty driving or a screw up. If you believe that shit, you're a moron.

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The Z32 is a nice sports car, even for todays standards. Just dont compare price on a car made over 10 years ago plus 'x' amount of moeny toward modifacations.
What's wrong with that? I know what you're saying, but we aren't paying the retail price for the car when it was new now. It's not hard at all to find a Z32TT in good condition for 12-15K. If you give me 33K or whatever for a car and someone else 33K for an STI, he spent all his, why couldn't I spend all mine? That would leave me ~20K for mods.

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Which is all fine and dandy...it's when you get all bent out of shape and start making up arguments and stats that you get beyond the realm of reasonable. There's nothing at all wrong with having a calm, civil argument with someone...it's one way to learn. I've learned a lot about mustangs in this manner. But when you start saying such rediculous, unfounded, completely wrong things such as "the Z31 weighs 3800lbs"...come on...prove that. I've given references (more than one in most cases) for damn near every stat I've given, so quit being stubborn.
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Its The 2.5rs And To Do That Would Yeild Z As The King Now If You Said A J-spec Wrx Sti Spec Ra Type C Verse A Z32 The Z Would Be Obliterated And Has Been.
the point is, at the time, the Zed was better than the subaru. now if there was a modern day z32 made here in america, i'm sure the specs would be out of this world if nissan directed all it's efforts at performance. now you may say the 350z is what i'm getting at, but no, it isn't. the 350z is more of a nice quick touring car than an all out race machine. also, it's an n/a motor.. slap a tt kit on there and you're making 420+ rwhp (dyno proven, i have a movie clip of it if you don't believe me) that more than takes it up into the 1/4 times of the sti. anyway, i'm done bickering.. i've got better things to do... like stare at a wall.
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Re: z32tt vs dodge srt4

I highly doubt that Nissan will ever go for a extreme high performance Z like they did with the Z32 due to cost. That was what brought the Z32s demise...they were INCREDIBLE cars, but you also had to pay an INCREDIBLE price for them. That's why the new Z isn't an all out, hard core performance car. They did a very good job of keeping the performance there while keeping the price down...which is what they did.

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That rules. Love the new Z31 Pic...nice clean Z, man.
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Re: z32tt vs dodge srt4

thanks llz, i like it too and i haven't washed that thing in a few days too, that colour is the best for hiding dirt for sure... the water you see is from me hosing out my radiator... the thing looked like one big wall of dirt it was so freaking clogged..
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Re: z32tt vs dodge srt4

http://www.carsurvey.org/modelyear_N...40SX_1991.html

the 3800lb car is my friends... he weighed his car when I weighed my 240sx rb swap. His car was completely stock (unless you count lighter wheel wheels) with a full tank of gas.
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Re: z32tt vs dodge srt4

Shut your yapping... The Z rules and there are not many cars out there that can beat a highly modded Z TT let alone a stock one!

musicsurfman: STFU! Take your WRX and shove it, you cretin!
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Re: z32tt vs dodge srt4

the only thing the sti has on the Z is the all wheel drive. besides that, how many times are you gonna race from a stopping point.
been that the ZS lates year model was the 1996 comparing it to the STI which is over five years diff in tech it would be fair to do bolt ons.the ZTT will be around 400hp that would whoop the STI

there is a guy around my hood that has an STI but everytime he sees me coming for some reason he always make a quick turn to get a way.
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Re: z32tt vs dodge srt4

the only thing the sti has on the Z is the all wheel drive. besides that, how many times are you gonna race from a stopping point.
been that the ZS lates year model was the 1996 comparing it to the STI which is over five years diff in tech it would be fair to do bolt ons.the ZTT will be around 400hp that would whoop the STI

there is a guy around my hood that has an STI but everytime he sees me coming for some reason he always make a quick turn to get a way.
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Re: z32tt vs dodge srt4

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The Z32 weighs more than 3200-3300 lbs...a bit over 3500 according to R&T in Feb of 94. It really is quite heavy but you'd never know it by driving it. The STI is a great car that I do think has a lot of potential...but it does NOT handle "way better" than a Z32, if any at all...and I've MORE than proven that...so shut up already.

And no, Z31s don't weigh 3800lbs...what's wrong with you, man? Where do you get this shit from? You just pull numbers out of your ass?
i got the weight of the z32TT from the sticky wes had made about zed specifications. according to that the z31 also weighs just above 3,000lbs. not the lightest cars but they are definitely not a metal sled that cant turn worth shit. also, for the day and age the car really isnt that heavy, beings in 1990 and 1984 they didnt exactly have the technology to build cars just as strong but lighter.
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Re: z32tt vs dodge srt4

I Don't Have A Wrx....

My Z Would Probably Beat A Highly Modified Tt Z32, But This Isn't About My Car.

A Wrx On A Track Would Blow The Doors Of A Z Car.
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maybe...good for it. a 3 year old car design built for top performance can beat a 16-20 year old car design built for performance along with luxury. why do you come in a past z car forum and bash the z that was built 20 years ago to a car that is basically brand spanking new with the newest technology? makes you look stupid when you say things like the z cant handle and it weighs 3800lbs and that hicas screws up everytime you turn the wheels. WTF???

i dont think anyone here has or had the intention to bash the STI because most people here know that it is a very fast and powerful car but we also know that the z is very fast and powerful. we didnt go say things like well the STI sucks because it has 4 doors and it cant take turns because it has all wheel drive. because those things wouldnt be true. next time i would advise you to atleast research the cars that your bashing so you dont sound like an dumbass. we dont take kindly to people bashing the z let alone people bashing the z with false accusations.
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Re: z32tt vs dodge srt4

i agree with k3.. know your stuff or keep it shut, if i were a mod i would have banned you by now, but that's wes' decision not mine. nobody said the sti sucks, some just said it looks like grandma ass, which i agree. where the sti is more powerful than the z, it will never..ever touch the z's grace and sleek lines
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The sooby is a good car, and great for those who need AWD and performance. But its not a sports car. Its a Sports Sedan four door at that. Its a great car more so considering its coming from the company thats only good car has been the WRX/Impreza line. And their only selling car..... The Z32 on the other hand like all Z's are what the japanese call practical performance machines. They have room to carry stuff in the boot/hatch and yet they are quick and handle better than most cars in their price year range. Even to this day the Z car is considered to be the best all around packege to come out of Japan. I have driving both the STI and the Z32, Both have their draws, but the STI drives like a FF(front engine frontwheel drive) car. This is not something that I look for in a car. I got tired of understeer with my Escort, I wanted something that in a pinch I could turn a 3 point turn into a 1 single bootlegger. The STI I felt that I sat to high in the car, almost like driving a XC90 from Volvo, and that the hood scoop was sort of ubstructing, but yet it wasnt as bad on the regular WRX. It had great excelleration from the line and a decent power band for a 2.5L. I didnt like the Transmission it was a pain to get it into first when downshifting from second. Also its first gear felt sloppy, almost like a Saturns transaxle MT. There was too much stick play with the car in first gear, you couldnt feel if you were in gear, not a big grabber for me. Sorry but the Soobie is a great car if thats what your into but it wasnt for me, or for many others on this forum. Sorry to come down on you but you DO need to chill its just peoples opinion, if you dont like them then ignore them. Simple as that.
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Re: z32tt vs dodge srt4

How Does A Rear Biased Awd Car Drive Like A Ff Car? Have You Even Tried Adjusting The Center Differential? And One I've Driven Every Z Body Style Out So Far And They Are All Great Cars Thats Why I Own One Of The Originals Hell I Just Bought Two More (a 73 And A 77)..... But My Point Was Nissan Fanboy Jealousy, I Love Nissans I'll Always Own One... And The Best Part Of This Whole Debate Is That Fact That I Doubt That Any Of You People Realise It But The Subaru Design Is Mostly Nissan Parts And A Nissan System. I Was Just Getting You People Wild Just To Piss You People Off.... I've Loved The Z's Since I've Driven Them And I'll Continue To Love Them.
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