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Old 09-06-2004, 12:54 PM   #91
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Good information. But it skirts the issue of the Hybrid's real world mpg vs say a Golf TDI. My Prius was incredible affected by air con, hills, high speed freeways (you will always see Prius in the "slow" lane), people on board, havy, heavy, heavy traffic. Also, my local dealer has a fair number in for repairs. Also parking attendants don't know how to drive them. I am not being partisan when I say that I believe a high % of buyers think they are "in" liberals by driving one---their sole rationality in a world in which they feel inferior. Give me the TDI anytime. Let Streisand drive one!
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Old 09-06-2004, 02:19 PM   #92
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vs say a Golf TDI.
Besides the Golf TDI being quite a bit smaller and dramatically dirtier, its real-world MPG isn't all that impressive.

SHOW ME THE DATA!

I just plain do not believe claims that generically state it is better than a hybrid like Prius. Let's actully see detail that proves an automatic TDI in mixed driving can produce real-world MPG comparable to HSD. Checking the TDI owner's club, I haven't been able to find any.
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Old 09-06-2004, 03:14 PM   #93
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I have owned a standard and an automatic TDI. They are close enough to the Prius that all the care needed to get thePrius mileage simply is not worth it.
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Old 09-06-2004, 10:49 PM   #94
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Why should we believe that claim?

In any other venue, actual proof is needed.

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Old 09-06-2004, 10:52 PM   #95
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Vague comments (like "close enough" and "all the care") are of no use either.

Show me the data.

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Old 09-07-2004, 07:55 PM   #96
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Show me the data

Tou can't take hearing the data!
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Old 09-08-2004, 01:51 PM   #97
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After 4 years of discussions like this, there is absolutely nothing new you can reveal. The best of the diesel supporters have already presented everything they had at their disposal to no avail.

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Old 09-08-2004, 05:21 PM   #98
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krousb got 84.7 mpg for over 900 miles on the highway. That's 34.7 MORE MPG than the EPA's claim.
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Old 09-08-2004, 06:40 PM   #99
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You forgot something. It's ridiculous as well!
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Old 09-08-2004, 10:17 PM   #100
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it IS ridiculously high. But it IS TRUE.
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Old 09-09-2004, 03:37 PM   #101
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What is wrong with you?
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Old 09-09-2004, 04:21 PM   #102
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...k/Prius/85.jpg

good game. what is wrong with YOU?
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Old 09-09-2004, 04:22 PM   #103
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85.7 MPG over 967 miles from a single tank of gas without filling.
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Old 09-09-2004, 09:44 PM   #104
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That is not only absurd but unfair to post here, so that those contemplating buying one (they are good cars), think they will get anywhere near that mileage. You are a Kerryite. They will get in normal driving about 38-40 mpg., if they use air and do mixed driving. Can't you guys face it. I had to buy one to learn you were dreaming!
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Old 09-09-2004, 10:51 PM   #105
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You're wrong. plenty of people get 48 mpg in normal driving. Where are you getting your data from? Your own Prius.. in which you were not careful enough to make sure you would not be waste gas because of different circumstances? THAT IS WHAT IS UNFAIR. The proof is right there for you. The Prius CAN get above EPA ratings and the average is 48 mpg for NORMAL DRIVERS. Why is that absurd?
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