best turbo kit for d16z6

[BLU CIVIC]

just to start of....my question is what the topic of this thread is....i'm new to the whole working on the engine and fi thing, so after i get me d16z6 next year i'm figuring it should take me all of next year to get this car finished ($ playin a big role) but in the poll is just the ones i know of and if i didn't mention any other that u know of, plz enlighten me

[eckoman_pdx]

Greddy makes decent kit for the D16Z6. You need a separate BOV though, as it is not included. The kit is set up for 5psi. It retails for $1950. Apexi's kit costs a little more, $2,599 but claims to make more power. It is @ 6psi.However, if it matters, it is NOT CARB exempt, and the greddy is. Both have upgrade paths, so you can upgrade the boost and power later. Neither includes an intercooler, (which is option instead) you will want to get. The Apex uses a IHI, ball bearing center section, the turbine A/R is .71. The manifold is made of SUS 304 Steel. The Greddy uses a mitsubishi TD04H-15G 8cm2 turbo. The manifold is cast iron.
www.apexi-usa.com
www.greddy.com

[BLU CIVIC]

well what do u think about the drag or rev hard turbos?? since i'm spending almost all of next year on this engine and turbo kit i want to have thee possibility of running high boost....15+psi...but i was also told that i could psooibly get the same results going homemade....what do u think

[eckoman_pdx]

Originally Posted by BLU CIVIC

well what do u think about the drag or rev hard turbos?? since i'm spending almost all of next year on this engine and turbo kit i want to have thee possibility of running high boost....15+psi...but i was also told that i could psooibly get the same results going homemade....what do u think

Going homemade for the kit can give great results. Just make sure you know what you need, what size injectors for the boost, etc. The benifit of buying a pre-made kit is it helps take the guesswork out. Putting your own kit toghter can give you better results, IMO, at a cheaper price sometimes. If your willing to do the research and take the time to put your own kit toghter, you can get a great turbo kit. This gives you TONS more options. All different types of manifold design options, different turbo's, etc. If you are willing to take the time and do it, I say go and put your own kit toghter. You can get all the parts you need to make a kick ass kit, and can hand choose the ones that best suite your tastes and neats. This means you won't buy a kit, and rep[lace an included part with a different one you live better. I say defeniatly go for it, if you are up to it.

[BLU CIVIC]

well i'm going to have a whole year dedicated to this project and know jack about turbos except the turbo and fmic....so i have a lot of reading and research to do

[eckoman_pdx]

Originally Posted by BLU CIVIC

well i'm going to have a whole year dedicated to this project and know jack about turbos except the turbo and fmic....so i have a lot of reading and research to do

I have a whole bunch of books and magazines that will help you. I'll look up some of the titles, issues, etc and post it. It's a start, and they should help give you a much better idea.

[ReVo]

Also, one site you might wanna check out is http://www.cse.uconn.edu/~yelevich/turbo/turbo.html
Make sure to read through all the stuff, has some great info on building your own custom turbo kit. Also Homemadeturbo.com

[eckoman_pdx]

Okay, I found some of the magazines/books that should help you learn about turbo's.

1)High Performance Honda Builder's Handbook, Vol. 1, By Joe Pettitt. pgs 86-105 are on turbo's. The whole book is informative. There is a vol. 2 also, but I have not read it. Vol.1 is the one that touches on turbo's more.
2)Hot Imports & Compacts (HCI) May 2003. "How to Build a Turbo Kit." 37-96.
3)Sport Compact Car June 2003 Vol. 15, No. 6. pgs 153-162, 169-192, 199-224, 229-243.
4)Honda/Acura Performance Vol.1, pgs 73-112. From the editors of Sport Compact Car. published by HP books.
5)Civic Duty, By Alan Paradise, forward by Oscar Jackson. Not nearly as in-depth on turbo's as the others. This may or may not be up your alley. Some parts of the book are informative, whereas other parts seem better suited to the beginner just starting out. Pgs 70-79 would most likely be the most relevant to turbo's and internal parts related to a build-up. The other books will cover turbo's better.
6)Maximum Boost, By Corky Bell. I have not read this one but hear it is informative.

Since you arn't familer with turbo's much, these reads will help you understand what is what much better. They're not going to explain it in rocket science, but it gives a basic understanding. I hope this helps you out a bit. What turbo is best really depends on what your specific goals are for the engine. A turbo you would use for a 200hp output would not be the same as one you would use for a 300hp output. Number 1-3 above should help you understand how to read a compressor map, and explain how to figure out how much air flow (in lbs/min) and how much boost it will take to get you to your desired goal. From here you can start looking for the correct turbo.

[BLU CIVIC]

thanx...guess i have some finding and reading to do....

[eckoman_pdx]

Originally Posted by BLU CIVIC

thanx...guess i have some finding and reading to do....

Your Welcome, good luck on your engine build and turbo kit. Let me know how it comes along and how it turns out in the end.