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07-14-2006, 11:32 AM | #16 | |
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Re: 03-04 Cobra vs 07 GT-500
I'm throwing in the best deal yet on this thread. My car was $3,400 new and runs under 5.5 seconds 0 to 60 and about 13 seconds 1/4 mile (not sure the speed). So my car beats the Cobra, Corvette and GT500 in best bang for the buck!!! Even today you can buy one for $15K. For $40K you can get one like mine completely restored, have a car going UP in value AND hang with the cars you are talking about!
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07-14-2006, 12:08 PM | #17 | |
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What motor and gearing do you have on the Charger?
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07-15-2006, 11:47 AM | #18 | ||
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As a Mustang fan I'll say this...
I think the 2007 Shelby is the biggest disappointment EVER! A car with that much horsepower with a car God's name on it SHOULD NOT struggle to break into the 12's. Ford really messed up on this one and really fumbled the ball. I mean what happens when the Camaro comes out and they start dropping LS7s (which they will) into it? That's a 500 horsepower Camaro and what if it's almost or is hitting 11s? What kind of message will that send about the new Mustang? The message now is it's a big overweight brick. Mustang GT 300 hp-13.5 1/4 mile Shelby Mustang 500 hp-12.9 1/4 mile So 200 extra horsepower ONLY gets me 0.6 extra in the 1/4? Can anybody see what's wrong with this picture?
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For a long time it gave me nightmares... witnessing an injustice like that... it's a constant reminder of just how unfair this world can be... I can still hear them taunting him....... silly rabbit, tricks are for kids... I mean, WHY COULDN'T THEY JUST GIVE HIM SOME CEREAL? Quote:
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07-15-2006, 01:00 PM | #19 | ||
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Anyways, I think we were talking about new cars anyways...hard to beat. |
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07-15-2006, 01:40 PM | #20 | ||
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Ive seen a 12.6 but yeah, its pretty sad. Dropping the 5.4 s/c into it added about 300 lbs. When/if they put in the ls7 into the camaro, it wont be as bad, because its aluminum. |
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07-15-2006, 03:02 PM | #21 | ||
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Right now I think this would be the best bet for Ford. Take the 5.4 engine that was in the 2000 Cobra R and tweak it to around 400 N/A horsepower. Have it as an option or something after the GT in performance. Maybe it could be the new Cobras or Boss' or something. Anyway, a 100 hp jump with not too much weight added. Sounds good to me.
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not to mention it would get killed on a track with curves. the gt500 is slow for having 500hp. its fast but not 500hp fast. i agree with muscletangs post about the gt being only .6 seconds slower and being alot cheaper and less powered. theres an article i read about the roucshe stage 3 mustang that is about the same price, looks better, and holds pretty close in acceleration and according to the article handles much better than the shelby. all this with only 415hp.
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07-16-2006, 07:11 PM | #25 | ||
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07-17-2006, 04:06 AM | #26 | ||
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this is what i like about the smaller companies...they are more than likely the underdog that has to prove itself better than the competitor. even when they do, they dont get the credit in sales usually. only exception i can think of is the 350Z doing so well in a mustang biased market. its frustrating in general for true car enthusiasts to see cars not do well in sales when the manufacturer worked so hard for it to be the best and it is the best. but the average american would rather have the other brand because of an ego or standard thing.
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Re: 03-04 Cobra vs 07 GT-500
To be realistic the Shelby has alot more than just a big engine to differentiate it from a GT. Almost every part of the Shelby is different. The Saleen and the Roush, although nice cars, started as a GT than were tuned by an aftermarket company. The Shelby has alot more to offer and I am sure isn't beginning to hit its performance peak. I mean look how much the 03 Cobras could put out, this car has a better blower and more displacement.
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07-17-2006, 08:33 AM | #28 | |
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Re: 03-04 Cobra vs 07 GT-500
Also, calling the Shelby half assed would be an inaccurate statement to say the least. A mustang is a mustang. You can't make it a sports car. You can give it more power, acceleration, cornering, and braking...even give it a nice interior and exterior.....but its still not a real sports car. The new Shelby has everything you could want in a car...name something it dosn't have (within reason). To complain about the weight is really short sighted. Who would want a supercharged 3V in their shelby? Even if it did hit 500 HP it would be stretching its limits of performance. It won't be long after it hits the market that you see near factory Shelbys hitting HP numbers far exceeding the already ludicrous 500 HP factory output. The only way to save weight on that car would have been to add price. Who wants to pay more I am talking viper prices for a mustang? I think that Ford put out a solid performing car and that you couldn't have a much better mustang even though its heavy.
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07-17-2006, 09:12 AM | #29 | |
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Mustang's original intent was to never be a true sports car but a car that was both a daily driver and a very sporty like car. It was meant to be a cheaper end performance vehichle whose price was within reach of many teenagers and early 20's. It fit the bill very well for a long time. It also picked up another crowd, semi-professional women such as secrataries and nurses etc. It's what gave the Mustang the nickname "Secratary Car." It wasn't a brute beast like a 426 Hemi or 454 LS6, but it was fun, attractive and fairly affordable. It's also what has kept it alive when the A-Bodies and F-Bodies went the way of the Dodo.
I wouldn't want the Mustang to compete with the Corvette/360 Modena/911 Carrera/Viper etc. Instead it needs to reaffirm it's standing in the niche it has created for itself. It generated it's own class of car...The Pony Car. It should stay there. I would like the Mustang if they would do 3-things to it, 1) make the clutch on the manual more driver friendly, it's like the stupid things want to fight you...needs too much force to work and hinder's double-clutching and heal-toe 2) cut weight on the vehichle since that also hurts it's cornering abilities and why they're loosing some ground to the compact market 3) drop the prices on them ...otherwise, they're beatiful cars and they're black on silver convertables is one of the most beautiful cars on this planet |
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