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Old 12-04-2002, 01:35 AM   #46
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Talking dream car

Got to be

TVR Tuscan R & new Cerbera
Aston Martin Vanquish!!!
Aston Martin DB7 & DB4 ZAGATO
BMW M3 & BMW 750iL & BMW new M5
Benz 500slr & S600 AMG & 500clk AMG
Lambo Murcielago & Diablo GT
McLaren F1 gtr
BMW X5
Benz e500 AMG
Jag Xtype R & Jag F TYPE
Lambo LM002
Audi TT & Audi A6 allroad & Audi S4
Bentley Continental GT & Arnage
Pagani Zonda
Bugatti Veyron
Porsche Carrera GT

Should be build by tamiya & aoshima I think!
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Old 12-04-2002, 03:57 AM   #47
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LICENSING!!
Chrysler started a very bad trend in 1994, asking big money from "toy" manufacturers who wanted to make replicas of their copyrighted designs. Many of the pinhead MBA types working in the other car companies thought this was a great idea and followed suit. Instead of creating recognition and brand-loyalty with kids they decided to follow yet another extension of greed.
This may or may not be the case with these cars, I don't know. It may be a combination of this plus and unwillingness to turn "toy" designers loose with certain engineering information.
Notice I only have 6 Chrysler cars in my 300 car collection, all bought prior to 1994!!
But the problem is that you see a lot of the cars on the list are available as die-cast models by other manufacturers. Maisto is somehow able to obtain the licensing for many of these cars (especially the MB's, but they do advertise that they are the exclusive maker of some of the MBs.) There's also AutoArt, Minichamps, etc., that makes many of the other cars. Unless they have contracts with the car manufacturers that has a blanket clause of all scale modelling forbidding even plastic kit manufacturers from making them, I don't see how a company like Maisto can afford to buy the license for the SLR, for example, (and only sell a limited run of these at MB dealers) but Tamiya can't.
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Old 12-04-2002, 04:40 AM   #48
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How about the Ford Puma - street or rally version? I loved this car, I just hope the replacement is as good.


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Old 12-04-2002, 06:02 AM   #49
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Tony350ss, about your sig, hondas can't do that cuz thy're front-wheel-drive :finger:
thats the point of the "can your ricer do this" part. :finger: back at cha!
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Old 12-04-2002, 08:40 AM   #50
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i would have never picked that car but now that i see a pic of it i kinda like it:alien:

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Old 12-04-2002, 11:19 AM   #51
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toyota knew what they were doing making that truck, WAYY better than the other taco. i wouldnt mind having one of those.
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Old 12-04-2002, 11:21 AM   #52
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But the problem is that you see a lot of the cars on the list are available as die-cast models by other manufacturers. Maisto is somehow able to obtain the licensing for many of these cars (especially the MB's, but they do advertise that they are the exclusive maker of some of the MBs.) There's also AutoArt, Minichamps, etc., that makes many of the other cars. Unless they have contracts with the car manufacturers that has a blanket clause of all scale modelling forbidding even plastic kit manufacturers from making them, I don't see how a company like Maisto can afford to buy the license for the SLR, for example, (and only sell a limited run of these at MB dealers) but Tamiya can't.
It's probably because diecast market is much bigger than the plastic market. Sadly, people don't put together model kits, but they just buy a decently made diecast

Anyway, Tamiya never said they won't release the SLR. In fact, they want to make a model of it, and it will only happen after the production version is revealed.

I asked a Tamiya sales representative, "Now that you raised the bar with the Enzo, can we expect the same or even better with the SLR and Carrera GT?"
And he replied, "It was only possible, because the real car was made that way. Quality and easiness of building is our primary concern, and as long as it's met, whatever comes next will follow the same philosophy."
I also asked about license matter, and he said, "We've been having a healthy relationship with MB and Porsche, so that shouldn't be a big problem."
I asked, "Will the SLR and Carrera GT be released for sure?"
And he said, "We don't know, but we certainly want to do that to go with the Enzo. I hope I can convince my boss, and customers' input is very important."

I'm very optimistic about the SLR and Carrera GT.

Well, my wishes are
Jaguar XK8 (XKR) and Aston Martin DB7 (same chassis)
Subaru Legacy B4 S401 (Why not Aoshima???!!!)
Daihatsu Copen (Aoshima, Fujimi, anyone?)
They say Tamiya is working on the Nissan March (Micra)
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Old 12-04-2002, 05:01 PM   #53
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And he said, "We don't know, but we certainly want to do that to go with the Enzo. I hope I can convince my boss, and customers' input is very important."
You can tell him to just come ask us!
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I asked, "Will the SLR and Carrera GT be released for sure?"
And he said, "We don't know, but we certainly want to do that to go with the Enzo. I hope I can convince my boss, and customers' input is very important."

I'm very optimistic about the SLR and Carrera GT.
Ahh.... a glimmer of hope!!!

Now... about that Vanquish...

Hopefully they'll have the Bentley Continental GT as well. That's a gorgeous car!
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Old 12-05-2002, 02:53 AM   #56
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i would go for:
02 M5,X5,996 GT2 and ofcaz a 02 acura TL-S!!
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All i'm really hoping for is the BTCC Primera P11
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Old 12-06-2002, 08:01 AM   #58
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I have to wonder, why are there so few Jaguar models made by Tamiya? We have the LM racers, XJ220, and Mk 2. Hasegawa also makes the S types, and I seldom see anything else. No XJ-S types, classics like the XJ13, etc Does it have anything to do with licensing?
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Old 12-07-2002, 10:10 AM   #59
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Mmmmm, cars I'd love to see as kits, but have had no luck finding them even in resin:

Anything Pierce Arrow

Lamborghini Espada

Bentley S3

Rolls Royce Phantom III

Citroen DS family (in 1/24 1/25 scale)

Citoren SM

Any Renault from 1965 - 1970

Any Holden from 1965 - 1970
The same goes for any Australian Chrysler from those years.

Humber Super Snipe

Iso Grifo

1938 - 1941 Senior Packards

1939 Cadillac

Early 70's BMW's and M cars

Anything Minerva

Facel Vega

Any of the 4 seater Ferraris especially the Superamerica

All 3 of the Alfa Romeo BAT's (one exists now in resin! Woo Hoo!)

Any 60's Peugeot

Any 1959 - 1963 Chrysler product
(Anything from Virgil Exner's designs for that matter)

Any car built from 1910 - 1918 in 1/24 1/25 scale

Aston Martin Lagonda

Any of the Chrysler concept cars of recent years that haven't been released yet as kits.

Anything that is pre 1970 ambulance, hearse, or flower car.

1949 - 1951 Lincolns and Packards

Any Lincoln from 1932 - 1939

The Moby Dick Porsche (sorry , i can't remember the number)

The new Maybach

The new Cadillac CTS

The new Infiniti G35

The new Enzo / F60 Ferrari

The latest Pontiac concept cars (can't remember their names, but boy are they sharp)

As you can see, my taste is very ecclectic. If it's quirky or rare, I love it even more.
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Old 12-07-2002, 10:32 AM   #60
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I have to wonder, why are there so few Jaguar models made by Tamiya? We have the LM racers, XJ220, and Mk 2. Hasegawa also makes the S types, and I seldom see anything else. No XJ-S types, classics like the XJ13, etc Does it have anything to do with licensing?
While I wish Hasegawa has the S-type model, they do have good XJ-S high output, TWR street, and TWR racer, with good looking v12 engines.
What we need is XK8!
I don't think it's a problem of licensing, because I heard that Jaguar Cars is more understanding when it comes to Jaguar models.
It's more like how many copies of a Jaguar model can be sold in a certain period of time. And that number is not like several hundreds, but it's like 20,000 - 30,000, and some kits take a decade to cover the tooling cost.
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