ford mustang,what a waste

[Underground_Killah]

It's funny how this little boy's opinion fires up so much crap. I love my mustang. For the difference in price (16k?) i couldn't phantom how much stuff can be done to that stock mustang gt to make it roast many cars straight out the factory... plus it looks better IMO.
he probably does not even own a bmw or if he does it's probably from the 80's since for the most part, people who own new bmw's can form proper sentances. they are douche's don't get me wrong (and no offence to any decent hearted bmw people here) but i have not found many nice bmw owners, and since the days of my j30t roasting a z4 off the line... i know how to hurt a bmw.

Let him gain his hate post counts and get eventually banned. don't let him get you all of you. Mustangs 4TW!

[bmwkicksbutt]

the only thing good about the jag-u ar is the engine ,jaguar has always had electrical problems and still do,the fact that nothing on a jaguar is consistent,they have two different electriacal systems,lucas or morrelli,ford did take them out of going bankrupcy,but they still have their problems,bmw is not perfect ,but close for the money,but i would expect when a person pays top dollar for a product any product,like my buddies 06 mustand which is supercharged and it cant get out of its own way ,something is wrong here,this is why the american car market is loosing it or lost it,bmw does not supercharge,just turbo charge on 07s and on diesils,they have 4 valves per cylinder on all their engines with double vanos, full set of engine coolers for oil ,coolant ,transmission,auto or standard,p/s coolers,rear diff coolers,all std for almost the whole car line up,brakes on all cars are larger than most american cars and the m series cars they are massive ,i am sorry ,i have seen new mustang brakes,the car itself ,good for normal every day driving ,but not for driving like a famous yankee short stop did in a ford commercial for a mustang,and yes i do have a bmw ,and yes i am a bmw tech and i did work for a ford dealer as a tech,thats when i saw how bad ford cuts corners to save a buck,thats when i did learn that ford has way too many recalls,way too many problems with new product introduction,what happened with research and devolopment,sorry i dont mean to piss off people ,just make them educated ,when you looks whats there and what you have to do to it to make it decent,is it really worth it ,especially when it should have been that way from the get go,and for those of you who dont know the short stops name ,its derick jeter ,merry christmas ,i say no more enjoy your ride

[rivguy]

I like the reference to cars from other classes being compared - what was the sticker on that bmw compared to ford - the mustang is a hell of a car for the money - and another thing what's it cost to keep that german bucket running? the overall cost of the mustang is great - not all of us want to burn that kind of money to atrackt a piece of tail some of us can do it by ourselves.

[rivguy]

I like the comparison to vehilces in a different class. what was the sticker on that bmw? the mustang is a hell of a car for the money. another this is the cost to keep it on the road - those german buckets are expensive to keep running. not everyone needs to dump that kind of money to atract a piece of tail some of us can do it by ourselves.

[SkylineUSA]

And the moron still writes like a 5 year old

[01L2Cobra]

Originally Posted by rivguy

I like the comparison to vehilces in a different class. what was the sticker on that bmw? the mustang is a hell of a car for the money. another this is the cost to keep it on the road - those german buckets are expensive to keep running. not everyone needs to dump that kind of money to atract a piece of tail some of us can do it by ourselves.

Yet Mustang owners (Cobras owners especially) love to compare their cars to Corvettes. Aren’t they 2 different price classes (excluding the GT500 and its markup)? Care to compare the E36 M3 to the 06 Mustang GT? Prices are about the same or less for the E36 M3 and stock for stock the E36 M3 wins hands down and they are 7-11 years old now. You want to talk cost to keep them on the road? I have owned two Mustangs (02 GT and a 01 Cobra) and I currently own a E36 M3 and the M3 has cost me less to maintain. Once you get past the basics (exhaust and intake) they cost about the same to mod as well so no big loss their either.

[G-man422]

Well, a mustang, and a BMW are obviously going to have differences in the quality of materials used. But a 'stang gt is a good quality car for the money IMHO.

[SkylineUSA]

Originally Posted by 01L2Cobra

E36 M3 wins hands down and they are 7-11 years old now.

Give me a 16 year old Mustang, and put the same amount of money into it, and see who wins? And I know they are a heck of lot easier to work on, and a lot cheaper as well.

We can play apples and oranges all day long. Some people like apples, some like oranges.

[01L2Cobra]

True but I can build up a 318 and kill the Mustang for about the same price as what you would spend to take out the E36 M3. But that still does not negate the fact that stock for stock the S197 Mustang still isn’t up to speed with a 7-11 year old M3 that can be found for $18K or less in good condition with low mileage.

[6speed]

Originally Posted by 01L2Cobra

Yet Mustang owners (Cobras owners especially) love to compare their cars to Corvettes. Aren’t they 2 different price classes (excluding the GT500 and its markup)? Care to compare the E36 M3 to the 06 Mustang GT? Prices are about the same or less for the E36 M3 and stock for stock the E36 M3 wins hands down and they are 7-11 years old now. You want to talk cost to keep them on the road? I have owned two Mustangs (02 GT and a 01 Cobra) and I currently own a E36 M3 and the M3 has cost me less to maintain. Once you get past the basics (exhaust and intake) they cost about the same to mod as well so no big loss their either.

you're taking a car that cost a certain amount a decade ago and a car from today. yet even a 1995 bmw m3 still cost upwards of 40g new. mustang GT doesnt come close to that sticker. you cant compare the two theyre not even in remotely the same price range. and why compare cars that are 10 years apart. take a 06 m3 and a 06 gt...whats the price difference between the two, 25-30 grand? how can you compare the two cars.

bmwkicksbutt- your a complete idiot, period. it sounds like you got fired from ford and you cry yourself to sleep over it every night and now you work for bmw and just like most other bmw drivers you think your shit smells like roses because you have a german badge on your car. you get what you pay for, my dad paid for a 7 series...his car will run for a lot longer with a lot more perks and less problems but he paid 3 times what i did for my car, which was purchased to beat the hell out of and it will take a beating. if and when a car does break though, you know who will be shelling out more $$ at the repair shop....you.

you didn't come on here to educate anyone, you did it to be a prick, and mission accomplished. you cant educate anyone on what you "think" is a better car by just being an asswhipe to everyone. im sure ill be seeing a 'banned' under your name shortly, that or once you run out of stupid comments to make you will just disappear.

i hate fanboys

[01L2Cobra]

Originally Posted by 6speed

you're taking a car that cost a certain amount a decade ago and a car from today. yet even a 1995 bmw m3 still cost upwards of 40g new. mustang GT doesnt come close to that sticker. you cant compare the two theyre not even in remotely the same price range. and why compare cars that are 10 years apart. take a 06 m3 and a 06 gt...whats the price difference between the two, 25-30 grand? how can you compare the two cars.

Who gives a rat’s ass about what they cost back then over actual up to date prices? Only people that can’t seem to admit that the better deal is a $18 used M3 over a $25-30K new Mustang GT. You want to talk new prices care to compare the GT500 to a Dinan S3 M3? After dealer mark up on the GT500 your looking at about the same amount of money spent and GT500 is less of a car.

Originally Posted by 6speed

i hate fanboys

God forbid anyone say anything bad about Ford or Saleen.

[6speed]

i never said a word about ford OR saleen. there is a variety of cars out there for a variety of interests. not everyone needs to have the best overall performer for their buck. some people buy a mustang just for the sound, name, and heritage behind the name. i was simply saying your taking a 10yr old used car which (now) costs a little less than a new mustang and saying its a better buy. if we all bought used cars because they were better performing than the new ones, where would the car market be? we don't just all sit back and think "gee, i really want this mustang i think theyre cool but bmwskickbutt says bmws are better so i better get what he likes or he'll make fun of me on the internet."

[01L2Cobra]

Originally Posted by 6speed

i never said a word about ford OR saleen.

I see you didn’t catch on to what I was alluding to.

Originally Posted by 6speed

there is a variety of cars out there for a variety of interests. not everyone needs to have the best overall performer for their buck. some people buy a mustang just for the sound, name, and heritage behind the name.

Too bad that’s all that’s left in the Mustang, nothing more than sound and a name. All lead by a 2 ton monstrosity that can’t do anything but go in a straight line and is named after a 83year old geezer who had little to do with it outside of giving it the thumbs up and whoring out his name. Hell he did more in the 80’s with Dodge than he did with this car.

Originally Posted by 6speed

i was simply saying your taking a 10yr old used car which (now) costs a little less than a new mustang and saying its a better buy. if we all bought used cars because they were better performing than the new ones, where would the car market be?

I think it would be better off. There wouldn't be halfassed over priced Mustangs out there. Ford had an opportunity to build a good car once. Remember the 05 concept? It would have been nice to see them with a real two door two seat sports car with a proper suspension for once.

Originally Posted by 6speed

we don't just all sit back and think "gee, i really want this mustang i think theyre cool but bmwskickbutt says bmws are better so i better get what he likes or he'll make fun of me on the internet."

Some people do buy in to hype look at the people buying the GT500. It’s great when 6 months later they come to their senses and realized they fucked up when they spent that kind of money on a Mustang that still looks cheap inside and out. Not to mention handles like a broke down mule and still has wheel hop after everyone bitching about the IRS in the last Cobra.

[SkylineUSA]

Originally Posted by 6speed

we don't just all sit back and think "gee, i really want this mustang i think theyre cool but bmwskickbutt says bmws are better so i better get what he likes or he'll make fun of me on the internet."

I don't care who you are, that's funny (In my best Larry the cable guy voice)

[SkylineUSA]

You went to BMW, for your own reasons. Don't be shitting on me because I stay Ford. That is messed up, point blank.

I know you are are happy with your BMW, and that is good for you. You are a road course guy, which is not my cup of tea for my Ford. You want to bring your BMW against my GTR, I bet mine wins!