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Old 11-15-2004, 02:03 PM   #31
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I think the typical max acceleration for street vehicles is like 5700 fps

not quit sure so don't hate me if my numbers are wrong
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Old 11-16-2004, 03:06 PM   #32
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Okay, back with my shit!

I was wrong, max safe rpm is dependent upon stroke.

The formula is (Stroke x RPM x 2) / 12 piston speed in feet per minute

Stroke is in inches

I was right on the part of rod stroke ratio determining some of the airflow characteristics of an engine.
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Old 11-17-2004, 06:07 AM   #33
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Re: High Rev's possible with high displacement?

Typical piston accleration figures for a normal gasoline engine at max rpm is 23,000 m/s^2, mean piston velocity around 18 m/s, max velocity of 29 m/s at 75 and 285 deg ATDC.

A typical NASCAR Nextel Cup engine peaks at accelerations closer to 50,000 m/s^2, mean velocity of over 25 m/s and peak velocities above 40 m/s.

A typical F1 engine peaks at accelerations around 94,000 m/s^2, mean velocites 25 m/s, peak velocities of above 40 m/s at 80 and 280 deg ATDC.

These peak accelerations (which occur at TDC) are equal to:
Normal car engine: 2,300 G
NASCAR: 5,100 G
F1: 10,000 G

This means that during the acceleration a 230 gram F1 piston puts a force equal to 2,3 metric tons on the piston pin, which in turn put a force equal to 2,8 metric tons on the top of the con rod and so on.
The forces in the normal car engine isn't that much lower, perhaps half due to the higher weight of the reciprocating parts in those engines.
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Old 11-17-2004, 11:13 AM   #34
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I can always count on this guy to come through with this shit.

Thanks again SaabJohan
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