find your bimmer underpowered?

[beamer adam]

dont know about the states but the european version as usual gets more power with 343 bhp at 7900rpm.

[gigatron]

Yup just about any import is downgraded in north america

[Celsdogg]

yeah, its not so much that they are downgraded, it is more that they are put throught stricter standards for a few thngs for emissions for example. like the 330i puts out 225 hp in the states and i thnk 231 for europe standards. . .it really stinks

[GJM325i]

I am amazed that so many are really trying to give this guy feedback on how to make a 318 a race horse!!
I am no snob and certainly didnt think my 325i was going to smash world speed records, but conm, a 318!!!????:grey:

[kaoru-tochiro]

Originally posted by GJM325i
I am amazed that so many are really trying to give this guy feedback on how to make a 318 a race horse!!
I am no snob and certainly didnt think my 325i was going to smash world speed records, but conm, a 318!!!????:grey:

well, the engine in my avatar is the same engine as the 318, but it has well over 1,500 horsepower. So the engine has racing potential. But for the road, the guy's going to spend $10,000 jut to get 190 hp. When a 325 will do 200 hp (reliably) with a simple intake/exhaust and chip upgrade. Some prefer it the hard way though.

[gigatron]

It's called challenge and waste of money :P

[C_Dogg]

Originally posted by Celsdogg
i dont think that gettin an 8 is the only way to get power, the E46 M3 can keep up with most of the high performance 8's like the vipers and vette z06's yet it is just the same inline 6 in the 330, well except for the fact that the M department got a hold of it. . .

I don't know what you're smoking, but for raw power the Vette's got it hands down. I own both, an E46 330 and an '01 Vette, and I am here to tell you I can burn the tires off of the Vette in no time.
Don't get me wrong I love my 330. It's pure precision and a joy to drive. It has very good power and performance, and a whole list of accessory goodies that I can't get on the Vette. But if you want to be the big dog in town, it's hard to compete with a performance V8.
Just my opinion.:ylsuper :sun:

[Celsdogg]

im not so much sure of the power of the vette however. . .

i was watching a special on the past detroit auto show and they put a the viper (10 cyl) aganist the vette z06 (8 cylinder). both performed the 0-60 in about 5 secs or lower. the m3 is the same at a 0-60 in 4.8 secs.

just what i've seen. . .

[Celsdogg]

i think we may be confusing what i am saying here.

the 4.8 second car i am talking about is the E46 M3. not the 330i. however the M3 and the 330's share the same engine. the 330 uses the M54 engine and for the M3 the M Department took the M54 engine and developed the S54 engine which is in the M3. . .

[gigatron]

Displacment, cylinder count, engine type, etc... they don't really matter.. there can be a number of combinations... heck sure 12 cylinder 10liter engine but if its out of plastic it literally wont last a second... lol in other words there are other factors like material make.. is it an inline engine is it a v engine is it a multi v design, is it a boxer engine... is it a rotary engine, again what material is it made of.. what design does it have... principles, other sophisticated principles applied, computer managment, variable valve timing.. number of valves, and then not just the engine, what about the drive system is it fwd, awd, rwd, what kind of transmission (one of the most important aspects), the weigh of the car, what if any kind of forced induction system, air rams, turbocharger , supercharger, twin charged?, etc... so on and so forth.... doesn't matter if u put a 10L or 1L engine if u dont take into consideration the other facts.. and a 5L engine doesnt mean uve got the king of cars.. look at mustangs lol.. overbloated unsophisticated engines.. the 80s mustangs suck so much :P Then take a look at a DSM... how much they can pump out of an inline engine, what about surpas with their 3L inline 6 (inline 6 engines are golden as much as V12 engines very unique in the way they function the 'vibrations' etc...), or what about the skyline engines? 1000+ out of that 'tiny' engine? hmm.. What kind of fuel? Disel? heh how come disel engines are big but.. ya... sure lots of torque (makes sense) but.. :P

Don't lose hope your bimmer has a soul and therefore a destiny Turbocharging the 318 is the best way to go i suppose.. internal engine work too... but in the end it might cost more then its worth in the end in turn getting a different bimmer engine would be more economical and THEN working on that engine :P M3 engine is all ud need ud be in love bro :/ You could always go for an M70 lol... jk Hmm the M8 prototype engines eventually evolved into mclaren f1 engines.. i iwsh i had the schematics to the mclaren f1.. man would i be a lucky man

[Celsdogg]

i agree with all that. honda squeezed 240hp out of a 2L 4 cylinder with th S2000, only 160 or so lb/ft of torque, but it does depend on many factors.

just one thing i would like everyone to consider.

bmw does not develop turbo/super charged engines. bmw engineers do not agree with the practice. . . just something to consider when charging your bimmer. . .

:alien:

[gigatron]

There were prototypes which were turbocharged.. in fact one of the concept cars not too long ago from bmw was turbocharged ('concept' keep that in mind) i forget which but when i saw it i was like hmm nice.

Of course there was tuner bimmers from alpina and the like which were turbo'd actually.. hmm i wish i had some links.

[badboy325is]

bmw may only produce n/a cars but they support companies that make chargers and other performance mods for them. Atleast they support Dinan. Now to the vette guy.....oh boy first let me say that the ZO6, which is the fastest, barely, i mean barely, beats the m3 which seats four by the way. i think your doing your beemer an injustice to compare it to that rattle trap, piece of american engineered shit vette. Maybe i shouldnt go that far. but i have had many vette owners talk about how their vettes were rattle traps after three years

[BlOOe46]

barely beats the M3? u must be on some good crack boy . . .

go to any real BMW forum . . . m3forum.com, e36fanatics.com, etc., and all the e46 owners will tell u that without a doubt the M3 is no match for the z06

u have to learn to face the facts . . . if u cant . . . at least do the math

M3 weighs in at ~36-3800 lbs (depending on options). . . the s54 makes 333 hp and is torque challenged (especially in lower RPMs) with something like ~260 lb ft of torque (peak)

z06 weighs in at ~3100 lbs . . . the ls6 makes 400 crank hp with more torque at any powerband then a sane person on a public road would know what to do with . . . ive seen video of an sl55 getting beat by a z06 from bmwm5.com . . . dont even begin to tell me the M3 is a match for the sl55 in a drag race, let alone the z06 . . .

boy were u sorrily mistaken

[328isRob]

Check Downing Atlanta Superchargers to soup up your 318.