Recap of Japanese F1 fleet - Part 1

[PatrickT82]

Originally Posted by Jimmyc

So 018 was the Gray HDF apparently for sale at schaefer in Germany.
So that's four F1's Meissner has had.
Is there anyone out there we're aware of (excluding the SOB) who's had as many

Was 018 also owned by Tomas Bscher. There was an article in a UK magazine years ago when it was talking about his 200mph daily commutes and the car looked just like the blue 018.

I saw #018 this january in Germany in Leonberg at a dealership (above Gemballa Porsche tuner) and it was darkgreay with high downforce kit.

but it wasnt blue definitely!

Would be unlikely if it now is blue though!

[PatrickT82]

Originally Posted by DiabloFan

If I remember right, it was mentioned before, that there was blue F1 in ZAZ museum in 1996. So it must be 018.

hmm well then I saw the same car as mentioned it is now darkgrey with high downforce kit

[bucciali]

Originally Posted by PatrickT82

I saw #018 this january in Germany in Leonberg at a dealership (above Gemballa Porsche tuner) and it was darkgreay with high downforce kit.

Would be unlikely if it now is blue though!

Yep, I read that a few threads ago. And as I stated....

Originally Posted by bucciali

#018 probably has moved since the ELG video. I guess we can put the 018 on the bottom of the list too then.

I just searched for the thread where SDC apparently posted pix of it in Germany at a dealer. Those were hosted at the Flinger site, which is now offline. SDC, or anyone, could you post them again?

....#018 has moved since 1995 (data photo posted by Peloton), to Europe. The pictures that I am waiting for, of it being in ZAZ museum, also date from that time period (1992-1995).

But to the point, SDC, or should I say PT82 could you find those pics you made at the dealership and post them again?


Anybody have any info on the yellow F1???

[PatrickT82]

ok I will post the pics again soon

[BRX880]

Hi!

Does anyone of you guys know, where I can buy this issue of rosso-mag in internet?
I live in Germany and do not have the chance buying japanese magazines at all!

[bucciali]

I have updated the list again, by adding the following two pictures. My source has gone through his archive and scanned his analogue pictures dating from 1996. It shows #018 in its original blue coat, as we have seen it in Peloton's image a while back.



As a bonus, he visited the museum again this summer, finding #053 as a normal part of the exhibition, an assumption we made after seeing the Rosso article.



Enjoy!

/Bucciali

[BMW.WilliamsF1Team]

^Thanks for the pics! I'm guessing that #018 in the blue?

[Peloton25]

If that is any car but chassis #018 I would be shocked.

I'm also beginning to believe that we might have photos of both of the white F1s here, not just chassis #053. In all the shots of Okamoto's white F1 the car wears a windshield banner. Unfortunately that's an easy item to remove if a new owner wanted to, but I'm still not convinced they are the same cars. If we could only get a shot of the interior in the Okamoto car, or maybe even some more recent photos from his collection to show that car still there, I think we could confirm that we've found #031 and that both white F1s are in Japan.

>8^)
ER

[bucciali]

Edited my post. Yes indeed, it is #018, as we were assuming.

Interesting theory about #030 and #053. You never really know for sure. If only my source had photographed the description stand, it may have had the chassis no. on it.

[Peloton25]

Your source would have photographed the description of the car we already have a confirmed chassis number for though.

We need someone with access to Okamoto's collection to prove if my theory is true.

>8^)
ER

[bucciali]

Let me see what I can do....

[SD F1]

The LM here is LM02 correct?

Wayne

[FortuneF1]

anyone know where 019r is? is it still in japan, last i knew it was the yellow corn car? or have any info on thomas bscher's 1998 fia gt car the all black and red striped davidoff gtr, its impossble to find pictures of it, ive only found 2

[FortuneF1]

also 016r,the now papaya orange and road legalized, former team bigazzi car is in australia for sale from maranello motorsport as well

[Peloton25]

Originally Posted by FortuneF1

anyone know where 019r is? is it still in japan, last i knew it was the yellow corn car? or have any info on thomas bscher's 1998 fia gt car the all black and red striped davidoff gtr, its impossble to find pictures of it, ive only found 2

#19R is here in the USA now and has been refitted with the LARK livery that it wore in 1997 at the 1000kms of Suzuka race. It may be owned by a gentleman named Kevin Crowder, but that hasn't been confirmed yet. Search this forum for Hudson Historics and you should find a good set of photos of it in it's present condition.

#19R was not the Yellow Corn car, though there were several references to that chassis number in the Hitotsuyama Racing literature and often the car was given that reference number in race listings. The Yellow Corn GTR turned out to be chassis #25R.

#19R raced alongside the Yellow Corn GTR in the JGTC series for several years under the Nicos and SOK liveries. You may be familiar with those. It stopped racing at the end of 2003 I believe, and was sent to the factory for its refit to the LARK livery before coming to the USA via Symbolic Motors.

The Team Davidoff liveried GTR was GTR #22R. It also raced under the Loctite livery at the 1998 LeMans race and spent some time in the GTR Euro Series in 1998. It is difficult to find photos of it in the Black/Red livery. In 1997 it was one of the Gulf/Davidoff GTRs. I don't think anyone really knows where that car ended up.

The info you offer on #16R is weel known by those of us here. In fact, one of the employees at Maranello Motorsport has made a few recent contributions to the discussion directly.

>8^)
ER