210 HP but only 143 Torque??? - Page 2

pik_d · 07-23-2005, 10:14 PM

hey... ugly is just a matter of opinion.

and toyota... what do they have to offer as sports cars... a celica? mr2? nothing that even breaks 200hp... unless you count the solara, but honestly... i dont consider toyota much of anything so far as sports cars.

cficare68 · 07-25-2005, 05:47 AM

I definetly feels like there is more torque that there really is. I haven't test drove the 05 but i test dorve an 04 the other day, and I must say I was rather impressed. It test drove that and WRX Imprezza in the same day, and the RSX Type S would have easily taken the WRX Imprezza off the line.

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Originally Posted by pik_d

hey... ugly is just a matter of opinion.

and toyota... what do they have to offer as sports cars... a celica? mr2? nothing that even breaks 200hp... unless you count the solara, but honestly... i dont consider toyota much of anything so far as sports cars.

Actually they don't even offer the celica anymore. They dropped that to further the Scion line with I have heard (don't know if it is true or not) that they are planning to make the Tc come stock supercharged in the future. If you want a toyota that is breaking 200hp though your only real opinion is the soloria. Other than that you need to start looking at the lexus in the toyota family

pik_d · 07-25-2005, 05:27 PM

wow... with as many celica's that i see on the road, i wouldnt have expected them to drop that.

not that i liked the car anyway...

crazy_canuck · 07-26-2005, 06:03 AM

The Celica isn't selling well, especially since the RSX, SRT-4, Cobalt, and now their own tC has been released.

cficare68 · 07-26-2005, 06:15 AM

Yeah not to mention that they wanted like 30,000 dollars for a brand new GTS and they wanted even more for the Action pack celica (a joke my opinion) There are things that are alot quicker and alot cheapier on the market. For that much money.

mason_RsX · 07-27-2005, 07:43 AM

Celica is dead, Mr2 is dead...Toyota is phasing them out for 2006...There just wasn't enough margin on them and sales were slowing on both products

Toyota does understand the new trend for powerful and practical sports cars, and look for some interesting new entries in the near-future

Also, look for the IS350, its supossed to be a 3 series killer...300+hp 3.5L V6 and styling thats very un-lexus like

crazy_canuck · 07-27-2005, 08:26 AM

With the new BMWs looking so weird and being just as overpriced, I think Lexus has a great opportunity. Too bad the RL's sales haven't been good for Acura

mason_RsX · 07-27-2005, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by crazy_canuck

With the new BMWs looking so weird and being just as overpriced, I think Lexus has a great opportunity. Too bad the RL's sales haven't been good for Acura

yeah I've personally lost alot of respect for BMW just because of Mr. bangle's designs

and its sad that the RL's arent selling well...but after 4 months of co op I could have gone to the morons at Honda and told them that Executives dont want V6's no matter how much hp they put out....oh and its gotta be bigger, and look slung and lazy, like an Audi

crazy_canuck · 07-28-2005, 07:06 AM

Yeah, to me I like the RL but the general public wants a big bragging sheet with their cars.

And the 2006 330i looks like it was the result of a threesome with a Mazda3, a Civic, and Tubgirl.

mason_RsX · 07-28-2005, 10:05 PM

Don't ever speak of tubgirl! ugh horrible pictures in my head now, im gonna be sick

3 series is rough...but I wouldnt go that far

As for RL heres what im saying

Just the way its slung forward and aggressive

VERSUS

which is slung a little further back, more relaxed passive look

Oh and this is another reason rich execs dont buy RL's

I mean how many A8's and 760's do you see doing that??

paulkramer · 07-29-2005, 09:39 PM

Oh, lord, that is making me sick just looking at it......poor RL!!

958Rocky · 07-30-2005, 01:10 AM

lol, I really like the RL but i don't think it can compete with the A8(which has either the v8 or W12 motor) adn the 760i with only a V6. I think the RL can go toe to toe with the new and ugly 530i.

Compared to the A8 the RL looks like a rental car.

crazy_canuck · 07-31-2005, 03:21 PM

Thats a photochopped RL :P

mason_RsX · 07-31-2005, 08:29 PM

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Thats a photochopped RL :P

Thats not the point!

the point is that how can you expect an Acura to compete with an A8 when ppl treat it a friggin tuner-car...the entire Honda/Acura brand is typecast to be these stupid ricer mobiles...and an executive or CEO looks at an RL and happns to see something like that, is he really gonna get it? hell think its a civic

paulkramer · 08-02-2005, 06:17 PM

Well, I'm not quite an executive, but when I saw the RSX and KNEW it was a Civic but better looking, higher performing, and with nicer features, I wanted it. And I was considering Audis.

I heard a lot more good experiences with Honda/Acura than I did with Audi, VW or Saab. Sure, a lot of kids rice them out, but people do crap to all kinds of cars.

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