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08-17-2004, 06:19 PM | #166 | |
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Re: Mclaren F1 Registry
A company that would legalize cars (exotics) to meet us standards.
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08-17-2004, 06:37 PM | #167 | ||
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Here's a recent list of RIs: http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/...t07142004.html Not all of those companies will specialize in exotics, and not all exotics are elligible or able to be certified. It's a convoluted process and admittedly, in my research to learn more about them, I have so far barely scratched the surface. I dunno why I'm not a mod - this forum could sure use a little discipline every now and then. >8^) ER |
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08-17-2004, 07:51 PM | #169 | |
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I'm one of 5 Admins on another message forum with well over 10,000 registered users actually, so I certainly have the experience required. I'm not sure the job is open here though. I talked to Oz (2nd in command, I believe) once or twice in the past about it and he told me they already had too many moderators on the forums. I don't think they specifically assign people to each one like other places and I guess none of their active moderators are interested in this forum as I rarely see one posting in here.
I've also sent at least one PM to Igor@AF requesting the slot long ago and never heard back. We rarely have problems in this forum though, so I just bother Oz now when I think something should be locked or deleted. I figure if I become enough of a thorn in his side, or he realizes that every time I hit him up I'm making the right call, maybe he'll break down and give me the reigns. Anyway - I think only a letter writing campaign could make it happen, and like I said we don't have enough issues in here to warrant me starting one. >8^) ER |
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08-17-2004, 07:56 PM | #170 | |
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Re: Mclaren F1 Registry
There are no mods on the mclaren forums so how can he say there are 2 many we need 1 here and u would be perfect I dont c whats the big deal about making u a mod.
Register R.I ~ MOTOREX 15607 NEW CENTURY DR, GARDENA, CA 90248 hehe |
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08-17-2004, 08:00 PM | #171 | |
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Re: Mclaren F1 Registry
E for mod!
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08-17-2004, 08:35 PM | #172 | ||
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Look carefully at the middle of the list, and you might see a familiar name. Edit: Actually, 2 familiar names. |
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08-17-2004, 08:40 PM | #173 | |
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Im lost im not sure which 1's you are talking about show the names and ill kno.
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08-17-2004, 08:55 PM | #174 | |
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I recognize a bunch of them actually - but I have been doing some research on the subject.
This is probably the one you are referring to: AMERISPEC CORPORATION 190 GEORGE WASHINGTON HWY, RIDGEFIELD, CT 06877 ...but I believe that these others have had their hands in bringing in some of the other McLarens under "Show & Display". = = = = = G & K AUTOMOTIVE * 3231 SOUTH STANDARD AVE, SANTA ANA, CA 92705 J.K. TECHNOLOGIES * 3500 SWEET AIR ST, BALTIMORE, MD 21211 WALLACE ENVIRONMENTAL TEST LAB * 2140 WIRTCREST LA, HOUSTON, TX 77055 www.wallacelab.com = = = = = Those three with the '*' are also registered with the EPA as ICI's - I think I'm discovering the distinction now. RI is the DOT's acronym and ICI is the EPA's. All ICI's also appear to be RI's, but not vice versa. Looks like Ameritech is not yet in the good graces of the EPA. I recall they had J.K. Technologies help with the Ameritech F1s. >8^) ER |
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08-18-2004, 03:18 AM | #175 | |
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You are correct Peloton, but remember, I said that two would be recognizable to most of us. The two that I was reffering to in my post were the AMERISPEC CORPORATION and J.K. TECHNOLOGIES. I think that those are the two most widely known for bringing in McLarens.
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08-18-2004, 06:17 AM | #176 | |
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RI's - Registered importers. DOT. OVSC. Title 49 CFR
ICI's - Indpendent Comercial Importers. EPA. OTAQ. Title 40 CFR If you read the DOT memo, Fritzee/Ameritech was not an RI nor an ICI when the 7 (8) McLarens were brought in. He called himself a manufacturer. DOT choose to cover this fact up. I think he had inside help in this scenario. MY opinion. I don't believe he has any employees, only some help from a local shop. The JK "certs" appear to be BMW car 12 cylinder certs. It has been well known within the importing circles that using a similar engine for example like a MB 600 series 12 cylinder to "test" (cert) as a CLK GTR is common. Sound familiar? Oh, am I giving away too many secrets? The memo also spells out how the scam worked. Call youself a manufacturer, subcontract the work to JK. EPA and DOT regs do not allow subcontracting on this basis. But, hey, when you're on a roll with ignoring rules, with support from the rule makers, what's the difference? I'm sure this methodology sounds familiar to some here on the forum. |
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08-18-2004, 09:47 AM | #177 | ||
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Dude, why don't you just drop the whole thing now? What can you do about it besides make annoying little remarks about it? Give it up, there are plenty more fish in the sea. |
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08-18-2004, 09:58 AM | #178 | |
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Are you suggesting that JK didn't test a Mclaren/BMW engine when they received their cert for the car? If so, how would one pull that off. Would you drop a 750il engine into a Mclaren chassis? Best Steve |
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08-18-2004, 12:54 PM | #179 | ||
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I don't see anyone disputing the claims you make about what transpired oh so long ago with those 7 F1s. But, remind us again "Barney", who is all this hurting? >8^) ER BTW: "Barney" is a lot easier to type than "Gastroesophageal Reflux Disease" |
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08-18-2004, 03:09 PM | #180 | |
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Hey, Ray. Like X-ray or ray gun. Why is it suppose to hurt someone? But let's talk about hurt. Those of us that have been screwed, myself included on five cars, have been hurt. Everytime another "breaker of the rules" selfishly gets his car in not caring what his screw-ball antics do to others, it hurts. Financially. And there are thousands who have been hurt. Yes, thousands. Plus the taxpayers. But I'll leave that alone.
The F1 could have been done differently where EPA was concerned. Offers were made. But other choices where made. It doesn't surprise me that now it comes back to bite them in the ... You and others critizise me on this, terrorism, etc. The apathy is abundant. "As long as I get my car in, so what." philosophy is why the world is the way it is. Anyway, I'm outta here, off to der Motherland for some real driving. |
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