The definitive 16R thread

[johnypham]

From the photos of the West liveried short tail, those catalytic converter was not used:
(Thanks Peloton25!)
And that was also the case on the original model i've got here:

As you can also notice in the photo, the central block (engine cover?) was in blue. But was there any other differences between the 2 engines ?

[hurstg01]

The cat's were only added when the car was converted for road use, hence why they are shown in #16R but not on the shot of #03R.

[carbuilder2002]

Racing CAT's are only used when a car us driven to the circuit and then back home again, unless the owner id prepared to remove them for the race and then refit them afterwards. Also used on track day cars as then the car can be used straight away on the circuit and on the road. Most of the racers I know don't use CAT's for racing anyway, it's an un-necessary restriction.

[johnypham]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKogF1IOpkM
-> can't believe i 've managed to miss this for so many years! Saw this clip almost 3 years ago, and only just now do i realize the generous gentleman in the clip was the same one giving us such awesome intel on the site

[hurstg01]

The man in the clip is Tiff Needell, failed racing driver [according to Jason Plato ] and the car at that time belong to a Mr Bridger [Here is a thread where Mr Bridger posted]; the car is now in the ownership of someone else

[Peloton25]

Actually our man mr bridger is also shown in that clip at the :48 mark onwards.

>8^)
ER

[johnypham]

Those are indeed very interesting information
Anyway, here are some of the questions i've got about the #16R that i'm working on a custom diecast project
1, I already knew that the frontal compartment of the GTR can be removed, but how about the luggage compartment we see on the road car? From this photo, they might just be removable as the other covers are?

Was the fire extinguisher on the original FINA car red or black? On the base model i have here, it's red
But this says otherwise:

2,What is this part's function? I knew it wasn't there on the road car?


3, Were those plugs supposed to go directly to the cockpit?



4,[EDIT]: Forgot this, were the vents on the front cover perforated ? On my base model those are not:

(This is the underside of the front)
On the other side, it looks like this:


4, Though i have found a lot of photos on the subject, close ups on the tires (specifically the branding of Michelin Pilot SX + the brake callipers) are still missing. Anyone have those and wish to share ? Please keep in mind that i'm looking for footages of the #38 FINA that raced at Le Mans 1996
Also, if possible, can somebody give me close up photo on the dashboard? Those i've received here are good, but i'm trying to replicate even the lettering over each dial and switch, so anything closer will help

Thanks again guys

[carbuilder2002]

trying to replicate the lettering in 1/18th scale will be an incredible task, just about readable/doable in 1/12th scale

[Peloton25]

Originally Posted by johnypham

...but how about the luggage compartment we see on the road car? From this photo, they might just be removable as the other covers are?

Held closed with a pair of Dzus fasteners at the top corners - they are hinged at the bottom and fold down the same way they would on a road car or the panel can be removed.



2,What is this part's function? I knew it wasn't there on the road car?

I believe it is the coolant reservoir, relocated slightly higher and forward from its position in the road car's engine bay.

3, Were those plugs supposed to go directly to the cockpit?

Yes, pass through connections.

4,[EDIT]: Forgot this, were the vents on the front cover perforated ? On my base model those are not:

Yes - there would have been mesh screens where the slots are to remove turbulent air from the wheel arches and have it flow over the top of the bodywork.

4, Though i have found a lot of photos on the subject, close ups on the tires (specifically the branding of Michelin Pilot SX + the brake callipers) are still missing. Anyone have those and wish to share ? Please keep in mind that i'm looking for footages of the #38 FINA that raced at Le Mans 1996
Also, if possible, can somebody give me close up photo on the dashboard? Those i've received here are good, but i'm trying to replicate even the lettering over each dial and switch, so anything closer will help

Thanks again guys

Best I can do on the tire logo for you:



Note: I snipped your duplicate post in the GTR livery thread. Please keep in mind this forum doesn't move all that swiftly and there are a very limited number of people who can assist with some of the obscure requests for detail you have so you may need to be a little patient at times. Duplicating the same post in another thread isn't likely to improve your chances at getting an answer here. All of us are fairly tuned in to each post that is made.

>8^)
ER

[johnypham]

Indeed that was not needed. Thanks again for the fast reply Peloton25
Now that i 've known the side luggage compartment can be opened, it's time to look for more photos

[hurstg01]

Originally Posted by Peloton25

Always cool to find an F1 where you were not expecting one.

Dove House Cars sponsored a run for local PH'ers. Couple of nice photos in the gallery accessed by clicking below:



There's a discussion thread with more pics over on PH.com - Link

>8^)
ER

I went up to this years Dove House meet, partly in anticipation of seeing #16R but mostly as my son wanted to go to a car meet this weekend. So 200+ miles and a total of 7 hours later, there was no #16R but we both had a blast, catching an Enzo, some lovely 964's and a mean flatnose Martini-liveried 911.

#16R is she still in your custody?