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Old 01-24-2005, 11:30 PM   #16
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Re: floating the gears good or bad??

u know ur tranys sposed to last the life of ur engine... NOT 2 YEARS! god what are u thinking its a clutch its meant to be pressed... its mean to be used to shift USE IT! dont float... god are all 3g drivers this dumb
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Old 01-25-2005, 01:32 AM   #17
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Re: Re: floating the gears good or bad??

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u know ur tranys sposed to last the life of ur engine... NOT 2 YEARS! god what are u thinking its a clutch its meant to be pressed... its mean to be used to shift USE IT! dont float... god are all 3g drivers this dumb
If you read the other replies, there is only 1 guy backing him up...the rest of us are just as amazed as you are...im still awe struck..lol
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Old 01-25-2005, 06:38 PM   #18
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Re: floating the gears good or bad??

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Old 01-25-2005, 09:06 PM   #19
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Re: floating the gears good or bad??

andrew im feel so sorry for ur car... not even a 3g should be put threw what u are doing to it...
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Old 01-25-2005, 10:12 PM   #20
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Re: floating the gears good or bad??

Most of you guy's are making me to be a dumbass. Let this clear... and it is true.IF you know whar your are doing it does not hurt the gears or the clutch!!! Even when driving dump trucks, which I do (I speak from personal experience) you dont ever use the clutch unless you are stopping!! When racing, and all the cars are the same because of spec rules you do whatever you can to get the advantage on everyone! And 2 years on a tranny on a car that is a dedicated race car is a long time for most that put on 20+ races a year.

By no way am I saying take out your new car and immiedatly start floating the gears. After getting the feel for the car, and feel comfortable driving it in such a manner go ahead and try it. If you know what a cluth even did you would know what floating the gears is OK. All a clutch does (in a nut shell) is synchronise your gears so they can be shifted. If you know at what RPM's your gears are inline you will be safe. So please stop saying that floating your gears is bad, it is an efiecient way to shift w/o dropping your RPM's. If you still feel that I am wrong come to AZ and I will drive you around in a Super 14 (type of dump truck), or my RX-7 and show you how effective it can be IF you know what you are doing!
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Old 01-25-2005, 11:51 PM   #21
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Re: floating the gears good or bad??

actualy no it doesent... it disconects the engine from the transmission letting the engine spin and the tranny not... thats y u have to put ur clutch in at a stop light or switch to neutral... u can rev ur engine and not move... i dont know jack shit about dump trucks but they might be able to do it... but in cars i know that they need to be clutched... unless u love to slip the clutch then it shouldent be to hard on the clutch if u shift fast anyway... a clutch is basicly a brake its got 2 pads that connect and turn if used right u only need to use them for fractions of a second as u let of the gas depress the clutch and shift, if ur not good enough then u run down the pads faster... anyway its bad to float so dont do it unless u wanna have some gears minus the gear part...
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Sry guys but i think i am going to have to go with Stickin_It_2_Em.... i mean he does know what he is talkin about.He developed his own thought by lookin into what the clutch and trany ACTUALLY do and came to a good conclusion rather than just saying what everyone else says. It like how they used to say situps where good for you when really they F'ed up you back and didnt do anything for zones 1 and 3. PLUS i think experience says alot. How many times has he had to change his trany???
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Old 01-26-2005, 04:45 PM   #23
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Re: floating the gears good or bad??

im just saying....the 3G transmission is bad enough. why create the chance of making it worse?

its not bad for a transmission that is built for it. if you notice, NASCAR drivers dont use their clutch unless they are stopping. they float the gears when getting up to speed
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Re: floating the gears good or bad??

Only on a single synchronized gearbox floating gears is fine as long as you know you torque range. But on our cars, the gearbox is dual synchro (Upshift/Downshift), therefore you must use your cluch to prevent damage. Otherwise you'll just be striping the synchro away.
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Old 01-27-2005, 07:26 AM   #25
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Re: floating the gears good or bad??

Man Legionofone go find your own fucking forums you don't even own a 3g .... oh wait they probably don't even have a forum for ur piece of shit .. if they do it probably has what 5 users? lmfao .... and you say 3gs suck? I woudn't waste the gas to smoke ur ass. and go ahead say 3gs suck? I don't really care but its getting fuckin retarded take ur granny car elsewhere
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Old 01-27-2005, 08:07 AM   #26
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Man Legionofone go find your own fucking forums you don't even own a 3g .... oh wait they probably don't even have a forum for ur piece of shit .. if they do it probably has what 5 users? lmfao .... and you say 3gs suck? I woudn't waste the gas to smoke ur ass. and go ahead say 3gs suck? I don't really care but its getting fuckin retarded take ur granny car elsewhere
where did that come from? maybe i missed that post. anyway, if i recall correctly, legions car has the same engine as the 3G v6 does. well after some research, i found out that i was wrong. it has a 2.5l v6 with 168hp and thats not even to the wheels
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Old 01-27-2005, 09:38 AM   #27
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Re: floating the gears good or bad??

no just a little pissed that he posting in our forums and saying our cars suck when his car is a v6 and the 3g eclipse 4cyl could probably beat his ass .... yea eclipsed4utoo ... I also went and found the specs cause i was just curious cause he talked alot of shit about his car lol
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Sry guys but i think i am going to have to go with Stickin_It_2_Em.... i mean he does know what he is talkin about.He developed his own thought by lookin into what the clutch and trany ACTUALLY do and came to a good conclusion rather than just saying what everyone else says. It like how they used to say situps where good for you when really they F'ed up you back and didnt do anything for zones 1 and 3. PLUS i think experience says alot. How many times has he had to change his trany???

Just because he approves of what you are doing to your tranny doesn't mean his arguement is more valid than anyone elses. It is the answer you WANT to hear and so naturally it is the answer you are more prone to accept.
Nascar drivers float their gears eh?
Any Idea how much they build up their motors and transmissions?
they have to have the must durable equipment they can to last the duration of the race so thats all well and good if your car is specifically built for racing.
BUT Guess what, stock 3g's are not dedicated racecars with bullet proof transmissions!

I'm not trying to discount what anyone is saying here. Both Stickin and Legion make interesting points but really when it comes down to it I would much rather lessen the chance of messing up the transmission because god forbid you do screw up then it could deal a fatal blow to the life of your transmission and who wants that?

We are just trying to help by suggesting you use the clutch instead because lets face it if you test 2 of the same cars and shift one with the clutch and float gears on the other, the one who floated the gears will most likely have his transmission go before the other's.
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Old 01-27-2005, 10:27 AM   #29
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Nascar drivers float their gears eh?
Any Idea how much they build up their motors and transmissions?
they have to have the must durable equipment they can to last the duration of the race so thats all well and good if your car is specifically built for racing.
BUT Guess what, stock 3g's are not dedicated racecars with bullet proof transmissions!
thats what i was saying. look how much they build their transmissions. thats why its ok for them to do it. our stock 3G transmission is horrible. noone should ever think about doing this in our car
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Old 01-27-2005, 01:45 PM   #30
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Re: floating the gears good or bad??

Ok great points have been brought up by both sides.Enough facts have been preseted to make your own opinion on things, so lets go ahed and let this thread die. Things has gotten to the point that statment are going to be made that will turn this into another " Four more Years!!!" typr thread.

And as for Legionofone.... Fuck off wanker. If you dont like the home team get out of the ball park. We dont go bashing your car, so dont bash us. Unless you own and drive a 3g eclipse shut up!!! Find somthing more constructive to do with your time (like looking at porn is a good one) and leave us ALONE!!!!!!!
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