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Old 01-20-2005, 06:26 PM   #1
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floating the gears good or bad??

hey guys,first post,
I float my gears alot(change w/o using the clutch). there is never any grinding and i never force it into gear. It has to be good for the clutch, but what does it do to the trany? basically good or bad?
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Old 01-20-2005, 06:55 PM   #2
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Re: floating the gears good or bad??

Doesnt hurt it at all. Lets your cluth live longer, and keeps you in your power band better. If you dont know what your doing though it can really fuck things up!
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Re: floating the gears good or bad??

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hey guys,first post,
I float my gears alot(change w/o using the clutch). there is never any grinding and i never force it into gear. It has to be good for the clutch, but what does it do to the trany? basically good or bad?

ARE YOU SERIOUS!!! This is terrible for your trans...especially if you are doing this in all your gears. Its not so bad going OUT of 5th into neutral, but going IN to gears is terrible. I dont think it does anything to your clutch because...shit, you arent even using it...but it is TERRIBLE for your trans. You are gonna end up stripping your gears and needing a new trans...which is rediculous in a street car manual. THE CLUTCH IS THERE FOR A REASON!!!
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Re: floating the gears good or bad??

I bet you the tranny is already ruined and about to go down the pits. Your gears are probally stripped so much from this that it doesnt grind anymore. Dear lord, what kind of moron told you just dont use your clutch?
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Re: floating the gears good or bad??

yah that doesn't sound good AT ALL
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Old 01-20-2005, 09:38 PM   #6
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Re: floating the gears good or bad??

Although i am going against the grain on this one, As long as you hit it just right you are fine. Like on my Jeep, I float the gears all the time..... but I am just driving it easy. if your racing then hell no, but i took it like he was just doing it around town, and on the highway. When I used to race an RX-7 even I would float my gears when I was on the straight away's. I had driven it enough to know where the "G spot" was. If you drive a car long enough you get a good feel for it.
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Old 01-22-2005, 12:15 PM   #7
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I DONT float while racing.......only during like neighbohood driving. Whether the car is new or used i can always find the right spot. i just have to be going the right speed and have the right RPM's. ANYONE HAVE ANY PROOF ITS BAD?? OR GOOD??
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Re: floating the gears good or bad??

Is there a reason you wont just push the clutch in? Its not hard
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Re: floating the gears good or bad??

I don't see why anyone would want to do it either.
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Re: floating the gears good or bad??

When racing its a way to keep you in your powerband w/o dropping your RPM's.
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Re: Re: floating the gears good or bad??

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When racing its a way to keep you in your powerband w/o dropping your RPM's.
When im racing, me quick shifting is just fine for me (using clutch...duh) because I shift so fast that my RPM's dont have time to drop, and its probably a hell of a lot smoother on the car...I honestly see absolutely NO instance in which not using your clutch in good or helpful in any way.
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Re: floating the gears good or bad??

Race long enough you will. Any advantage you can gain over the competition ( and Im not talking about drag racing) you take. Every 1/10th of a second pays off.
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Re: Re: floating the gears good or bad??

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Race long enough you will. Any advantage you can gain over the competition ( and Im not talking about drag racing) you take. Every 1/10th of a second pays off.

Race long enough and Im certain your trasmission will be costing you more than 1/10 a second...like retireing early due to FUC**D UP GEARS!!! Earlier you said that daily driving was probably fine for floating, NOT racing. Your trans fluid temp HAS to be running very high, and your RPM range is probably consistantly above 4500 which would be HELL on your transmission if you shift without clutching...I cant even imagine what this would sound like trying to force your car into gear...i think you are all on crack if you do this.
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Re: floating the gears good or bad??

Yeah I know i said that it would probably be fine for normal day use.... and it is if you know what your doing. But when your racing and you have to do every little thing to get a gain on the competition becuause all the cars are the same that is what you do. It is also the reason I ran 2 oil cooler's w/ a 7 qt oil pan. That kept everything cool enough to be safe. I would of been running those things regardless if I wasnt even floating the gears. I was able to last 2 seasons on a tranny in 100 + degree weather in Phoenix and Tucson.
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Old 01-24-2005, 07:57 PM   #15
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Hope you enoy replacing trannies.
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