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Old 12-08-2002, 11:57 PM   #1
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Post Honda's VTEC.

Since we have an abundance of Honda owners. The following info may be of some use.

Temple of VTEC Asia Special Feature




VTEC



VTEC is one of Honda's greatest invention. Though an undisputed expert in turbocharging as evidenced by years of Formula-1 domination while Honda was active in the sport, Honda's engineers feels that turbocharging has disadvantages, primarily bad fuel economy, that made it not totally suitable for street use. At the same time, the advantages of working with smaller engines meant that smaller capacity engines with as high power output as possible (ie very high specific-output engines) are desirable for street engines.

Thus Honda invented VTEC which allows it to extract turbo level specific output from its engines without having to suffer from the disadvantages of turbocharging (though VTEC introduces disadvantages of its own).

The Temple of VTEC is specifically created by Jeff Palmer as a dedication to this great technology and the Temple of VTEC Asia is dedicated to the home of VTEC -and of Honda, Japan and the region of Asia.

In this permanent feature, we will examine the basic mechanism that make up the VTEC technology as well as the various implementations of VTEC.





The Basic VTEC Mechanism
The basic mechanism used by the VTEC technology is a simple hydraulically actuated pin. This pin is hydraulically pushed horizontally to link up adjacent rocker arms. A spring mechanism is used to return the pin back to its original position.


The VTEC mechanism is covered in great detail elsewhere so it is redundant to go through the entire mechanism here. Instead we will look at the basic operating principles which can be used in later sectionse to explain the various implementations VTEC by Honda.

To start on the basic principle, examine the simple diagram below. It comprises a camshaft with two cam-lobes side-by-side. These lobes drives two side-by-side valve rocker arms. The two cam/rocker pairs operates independently of each other. One of the two cam-lobes are intentionally drawn to be different. The one on the left has a "wilder" profile, it will open its valve earlier, open it more, and close it later, compared to the one on the right. Under normal operation, each pair of cam-lobe/rocker-arm assembly will work independently of each other.




VTEC uses the pin actuation mechanism to link the mild-cam rocker arm to the wild-cam rocker arm. This effectively makes the two rocker arms operate as one. This "composite" rocker arm(s) now clearly follows the wild-cam profile of the left rocker arm. This in essence is the basic working principle of all of Honda's VTEC engines.



Currently, Honda have implemented VTEC in four different configurations. For the rest of this feature, we will examine these four different implementations of VTEC.





DOHC VTEC
The pinacle of VTEC implementation is the DOHC VTEC engine. The first engine to benefit from VTEC is the legendary B16A, a 1595cc inline-4 16Valve DOHC engine with VTEC producing 160ps and first appearing in 1989 in the JDM Honda Integra XSi and RSi.



Examine the diagram of a typical Honda DOHC PGM-Fi non-VTEC engine on the left, in this case the 1590cc ZC DOHC engine. Note that each pair of cam-lobe and their corresponding rocker arms though adjacent, are spaced apart from each other.



In the DOHC VTEC implementation, Honda put an extra cam/rocker in between each pair of intake and exhaust lobes/rockers. The three cam/rocker assemblies are now next to each other. The new middle lobe is the "wild" race-tuned cam-lobe. Using VTEC to link up all three rocker arms together, Honda is able to use either the mild or the wild cam-lobes at will.




Note : Though the ZC and B16A are well-suited to illustrate the difference between plain-DOHC and DOHC-VTEC, the B16A engine is not derived from ZC. In fact, ZC and B16A have different bore and stroke. The same applies for the B18A and B18C engines used in the JDM Integra series.

DOHC VTEC implementations can produce extremely high specific outputs. The B16A for standard street use first produced 160ps and now 170ps. In the super-tuned B16B implementation used for the new JDM EK-series Honda Civic Type-R, 185ps was produced from the same 1595cc.

DOHC VTEC can also easily offer competitive power outputs to turbocharged engines for normal street use. For eg, the E-DC2 Integra Si-VTEC produces 180ps from the 1797cc DOHC VTEC B18C engine. This compares favourably to the 1.8l version of the RPS-13 Nissan 180SX which uses a 1.8l DOHC Turbo-Intercooled engine which produced 175ps.





SOHC VTEC
An alternative implementation of VTEC for high (versus very high) specific output is used in Honda's SOHC engines. SOHC VTEC engines have often been mistakenly taken as a 'poor' second-rate derivative of DOHC VTEC but this is not the true case. An SOHC engine head has advantages of a DOHC head mostly in terms of size (it is narrower) and weight. For more sedate requirements, an SOHC engine is preferable to the DOHC engine. SOHC VTEC is a power implementation of VTEC for SOHC engines with the express intention of extracting high specific output. Examine the diagram of a standard SOHC cam assembly on the right. Note that the pair of intake rocker arms are separated but adjacent to each other.



In the SOHC VTEC implementation (diagram on the right), Honda put a wild-cam lobe for the intake valves in the space between the two rocker arms.

Note that the two exhaust rocker arms are separated by the two intake rocker arms and the "tunnel" for the sparkplug cable connector. This is the reason why Honda implemented VTEC on the intake valves only.





SOHC VTEC engines are high specific output forms of the standard SOHC engines. The D15B engine used in the Civic/Civic Ferio VTi models (EG-series 1991 to 1995) gives 130ps from a 1493cc capacity. Bear in mind this kind of power levels are normally associated with 1.6l DOHC or even milder-tuned 1.8l DOHC fuel-injected engines !





VTEC-E
A novel implementation of VTEC in SOHC engines is the VTEC-E implementation (E for Economy). VTEC-E uses the principle of swirling to promote more efficient air-and-fuel mixing in the engine chambers. VTEC-E works by deactivating one intake valve. Examine the diagram below.

In the SOHC VTEC-E implementation, only one intake cam-lobe is implemented on the camshaft. Actually it is really a flat "ring". In operation this means the relevant rocker arm will not be activated causing the engine to effectively work in 12-valve mode. This promotes a swirl action during the intake cycle. VTEC is used to activate the inactive valve, making the engine work in 16-valve mode in more demanding and higher rpm conditions. Honda was able to implement air-fuel mixture ratios of more than 20:1 in VTEC-E during the 12-valve operating mode. The SOHC VTEC-E engined EG-series Civic ETi is able to return fuel consumptions of as good as 20km/litre or better!!





SOHC VTEC implemented for power is often mistaken as SOHC VTEC-E which is implemented for economy. It is worthwhile to note that the 1.5l SOHC VTEC-E used in the JDM Honda Civic ETi produces 92ps. This is in fact less than that produced by the standard 1.5l SOHC engine's 100ps which uses dual Keihin side-draft carburettors. SOHC VTEC in the D15B produces 130ps. This is 30% more than the standard SOHC implementation !





3-stage VTEC
Examine the SOHC VTEC and SOHC VTEC-E implementations. The clever Honda engineers saw that it is a logical step to merge the two implementations into one. This is in essence the 3-stage VTEC implementation. 3-stage VTEC is implemented on the D15B 1.5l SOHC engine in which the VTEC-E mechanism is combined with the power VTEC mechanism.

Many of us probably has laughed at the poor ignorant layman who said "I want power AND economy from my Honda". We know of course that power and economy are mutually exclusive implementations. Honda decided not to abide by this rule. Now, with 3-stage VTEC, we get BOTH power and economy !.

The diagram below illustrates the 3-stage VTEC implementation. The intake rocker arms have two VTEC pin actuation mechanisms. The VTEC-E actuation assembly is located above the camshaft while the VTEC (power) actuation assembly is the standard wild-cam lobe and rocker assembly.







Below 2500rpm and with gentle accelerator pressure, neither pin gets actuated. The engine operates in 12V mode with very good fuel combustion efficiency. When the right foot gets more urgent and/or above 2500rpm, the upper pin gets actuated. This is the VTEC-E mechanism at work and the engine effectively enters into the '2nd stage'. Now D15B 3-stage works in 16V mode (both intake valves works from the same mild cam-lobe).

Stage 2 operates from around 2500rpm to 6000rpm. When the rpm exceeds 6000rpm, the VTEC mechanism activates the wild cam-lobe pushing the engine into the '3rd stage', the power stage. Now the engine gives us the full benefit of its 130ps potential !

The 3-stage VTEC D15B engine is used on the current EK-series JDM Civic/Civic Ferio VTi/Vi together with Honda's new Multimatic CVT transmission. Stage-1 12V or "lean-burn" operation mode is indicated to the driver by an LED on the dashboard. The 2500rpm cutover from lean-burn to normal 16V operation in fact varies according to load and driver requirements. With gentle driving, lean-burn can operate up to 3000rpm or higher. Stage-3 may not always be activated. The Multimatic transmission has a selector for Economy, Drive, and Sports mode. In Economy mode for eg, the ECU operates with a max rpm of around 4800rpm even at Wide-Open-Throttle positions.

The essence of 3-stage VTEC is power AND economy implemented on a 1.5l SOHC PGM-Fi engine. Many people mistakes 3-stage VTEC as a "superior" evolution of the power oriented DOHC VTEC implementation, describing DOHC VTEC as "the older 2-stage VTEC" and implying an inferior relationship. This is totally wrong because DOHC VTEC is tuned purely for high specific output and sports/racing requirements. 3-stage VTEC is in truth an evolution of SOHC VTEC and VTEC-E, merging the two implementations into one.





Implementations of VTEC in Honda models
DOHC VTEC is the implementation producing the highest-powered engines and used in the highest performing models in the Honda line-up. The smallest DOHC VTEC engine is the legendary B16A. A 1595cc 160-170ps engine that first appeared in the 1989 Honda Integra XSi and RSi, it now powers the famous Civic SiR models. The B16B is a special hand-tuned super high output derivative of the B16A giving 185ps and used in the Civic Type-R.

The B18C is a 180ps 1797cc engine that appears in the high performance Integra line-up. The B18CSpec96 is a special hand-tuned super high output version of the B18C giving 200ps and used in the legendary Integra Type-R.

DOHC VTEC implementations now appear in most of Honda's great line-up. The Accord SiR used to have a detuned 190s H22A 2.2l DOHC VTEC which was also used on the same period Prelude Si-VTEC in which it gave 200ps. The current Accord line now has a 2.0l DOHC VTEC engine that gives 180ps and 200ps in the Accord SiR and SiR-T models respectively while the current Prelude SiR still uses the H22A 2.2l DOHC VTEC engine giving 200ps. A special hand-tuned version of H22A is used in the Prelude Type-S and gives 220ps.

The highest level of DOHC VTEC implementation is of course in the NSX. Implemented V6 DOHC VTEC, originally in 3.0l and now in a larger 3.2l form, it tops the 280ps "legal" limit imposed by the Japanese government for stock street cars.

SOHC VTEC appears in more guises in the Honda line-up. The smallest SOHC VTEC engine is the D15B, used on Civic and Civic Ferio VTi/Vi models in Japan. The D16A 1590cc SOHC VTEC (power) engine giving 130ps is also used on the Civic Coupe and the Civic Ferio EXi (a 4WD model). SOHC VTEC also appears on the Accord models but not the Integra or Prelude line-up. In fact in markets which Honda considers not sufficiently advanced to warrant the DOHC VTEC engines (Malaysia being one of them), Honda markets SOHC VTEC as the top engine for their line-up.





Conclusion
In this permanent feature, we have examined the basic principle on which VTEC works as well as the various implementations of VTEC. In a follow-up feature, we will look at alternative variable valve timing mechanisms which are implemented by other manufacturers.




Author : Wong, Kong-Ngai
Copyright : Temple of VTEC and Temple of VTEC ASIA

Notice : Most of the illustrations used in this feature are taken without permission from magazines and the Honda Japan's homepage. They may be withdrawn or replaced without notice.










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Though an undisputed expert in turbocharging as evidenced by years of Formula-1 domination while Honda was active in the sport, Honda's engineers feels that turbocharging has disadvantages, primarily bad fuel economy, that made it not totally suitable for street use. At the same time, the advantages of working with smaller engines meant that smaller capacity engines with as high power output as possible (ie very high specific-output engines) are desirable for street engines.

Thus Honda invented VTEC which allows it to extract turbo level specific output from its engines without having to suffer from the disadvantages of turbocharging (though VTEC introduces disadvantages of its own).
I just have to say a few things about this guys statements that are misleading.

1. Honda is not the undisputed turbo expert. That would belong to companies like Saab, Volovo, or Chrysler that put A LOT of turbos on A LOT of cars.

2. Honda was never that great in Formula 1. They seem to have a problem with exploding engines these days.

3. Turbos don't cause poor fuel economy. While your gas mileage will drop slightly, it is quite minimal unless you have you foot in the gas all the time. I have owned turbocharged cars and I am able to accelerate without boosting at all. My last turbo car got an average of just over 30MPG and could go 0-60 in the 6s. Eat that Honda, I would say there is NO disadvantage to having a turbo.

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I just have to say a few things about this guys statements that are misleading.

1. Honda is not the undisputed torbo expert.
I agree infact Ive never even heard of a torbo, although honda's do well with turbo's.
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Well for one, this was written in Japan, I think. I doubt they have many lebarons over there.

Anyways, it was not posted for the turbo issue, but for info on how vtec works. I have just had a few pm's about it, so I figured this would help.
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bah! fuel economy schmuel economy!!
then again, i guess you can't really get much worse than a rotary or a stupidly large V8.......so I say "BOOST IT!"
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Although variable valve timing has definite benefits, there's no comparing it to a turbo charger. That's just kinda retarded.
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1. Honda is not the undisputed turbo expert. That would belong to companies like Saab, Volovo, or Chrysler that put A LOT of turbos on A LOT of cars.

2. Honda was never that great in Formula 1. They seem to have a problem with exploding engines these days.
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This again forced Honda's technicians to seek new solutions... which they did successfully. With engines now being supplied to Lotus as well as Williams, Honda-powered cars took victory in 11 of the year's 16 races. The high point came at Silverstone where the Honda-powered cars of Mansell, Piquet, Ayrton Senna and Satoru Nakajima completed a 1-2-3-4 clean-sweep.

Piquet finally clinched the Drivers' Championship at the penultimate round at Suzuka, the first Japanese Grand Prix in a decade. The Brazilian's title was the first for a driver powered by a Honda engine and, at the same time, Honda had achieved its long-held ambition of victory in both the Drivers' and Constructors' World Championships.

Restrictions on turbocharged engines were further tightened for the 1988 season with boost pressure cut from 4 to 2.5 bar and fuel tank capacity reduced from 195 to 150 litres. With a new 3.5-litre normally aspirated formula due for introduction in 1989, Honda set-up a separate project to concentrate on the creation of a new 'atmo' engine. However, for 1988, Honda's engineers were determined to end the turbo era on a high note by competing with a new RA168E turbo engine designed to overcome the latest fuel-efficiency constraints.

Having ended its relationship with Williams at the end of 1987, Honda joined forces with McLaren as well as remaining with Lotus for 1988. The first ever McLaren-Honda - the MP4/4 - was an innovative machine and the new combination's dominance was total. An almost perfect record established the MP4/4 as the most successful car in F1 history.

Between them, Alain Prost and Ayrton Senna won 15 of 16 rounds with the Brazilian finally clinching his first world title after an heroic season-long duel with his French team-mate. The McLaren-Honda team broke many records during the final season of the turbocharged era, scoring an unprecedented 199 points and recording no fewer than ten 1-2 finishes.
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there's no comparing it to a turbo charger.
How much power did the 2.0L S15 Silvia make with turbo? How much power did '98 Integra Type R make?
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Well for one, this was written in Japan, I think. I doubt they have many lebarons over there.

Anyways, it was not posted for the turbo issue, but for info on how vtec works. I have just had a few pm's about it, so I figured this would help.
Well, I'll just have to show them one!!!!

It was a great vtec guide, very informative.

The only gas hog turbo engine I know of was the RX7 because of too much valve overlap, but good news, they fixed that in the new rotary, bad new is, its N/A.

Also, I have heard those names, but there have been MUCH bigger names in F1 history, not just recent either. Neutrino would know better than I though.

Anyhow, back on topic.
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The only gas hog turbo engine I know of was the RX7 because of too much valve overlap...
No valves in a rotary engine.
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The only gas hog turbo engine I know of was the RX7 because of too much valve overlap...
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No valves in a rotary engine.




the rotary engine has over lap on the rotor that turns.and that gases lick thure there. that is what he/she ment ok. and this is about vtecs not rotorys ok.
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I found this kind of confusing, so I did my own search and came up with this site

Honda - VTEC

Was a bit easier for me to understand anyways. Just thought Id throw the link out there for others.
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No valves in a rotary engine.
There are two, one for intake and one for exhaust. Granted they aren't valves in the sense of most combustion engines more that they are two holes and are both open, or uncovered for a very short period of time allowing exhaust gas to be mixed in with the fuel and clean air causing stinky exhaust and poor gas mileage.

That is what I meant, and yes this is a vtec guide but it is also talking about turbos, I was out to correct some misconceptions about turbos stated in the guide, that is all.
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The basic thrust of this, and of VTEC, was to overcome what engine builders had had to deal with since the dawn of automobile engines:

Compromise.

Up until then, regardless of engine, if you wanted performance, you needed to have a more aggressive cam profile. Even in a V8 car, this meant lumpy idle and poor driveability when not on the track. This was worse in small bore sports cars and sport sedans, from BMW 2002s, to Alfa Guiliettas

So you decided how far towards a race car you wanted to go, and built around that cam profile, always compromising in some way: retinaing a bit of drivebility sacrificed ultimate power. More power, and maybe it was harder to drive around "off the cam."

Enter the VTEC system. A way to have that race/performance cam in the engine, without losing the daily driver cam and all the driveability that meant. More than just adjusting cam timing for a bit more power, this was like driving down the road with your stock cam, then having someone install a race cam automatically when you wanted more performance, and swapping back when you didn't. All while you drove!

This is more important than mere turbocharging. It doesn't add the plumbing, weight, and heat of a turbo setup. And it can be adapted to turbo enignes as well, which is important.
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Yes there is no comparision between VTEC and a Turbo. Yet if you put the two together it can make one hell of a ride. If you race a turbo non vtec car vs a vtec motor you will come up with that fact that off the line the turbo will pull on the car but at the top end of the gears once the engine has reached VTEC is when the Honda motor will begin to gains its ground back. Therefore if you turbo charge a VTEC motor you are talking about the ultimate ride. You can tune the car for the turbo to spoll hard in the low rpms then have your VTEC programed to kick in as the spoll is running low. Therefore optimizing your power. As for the turbo being bad fuel economy. WHO THE HELL CARES. This is supposed to be about makign a car go fast. If you are worried about fuel economy buy on of those ugly ass odessys or what ever they are. If you want power then turbo those vtec motors and run the hell out of htem and have fun doing it. TO me VTEC is great, I love it and I wont trade it but if you add a turbo charger to a VTEC motor your just talkign abotu raw hp and I love that even more!!
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How much power did the 2.0L S15 Silvia make with turbo? How much power did '98 Integra Type R make?
You are comparing a 1.998L to a 1.797L, and at that, you are not factoring in the efficiency of the engines in terms of gas mileage. That is 52cc more, so that also plays a role.

Personally, I disagree with the comment that VTEC makes up for a turbo charger. All it does is allow more air into the chambers at high RPMs, like having a racecar's cam profile, but also having the ability to idle. Unfortunately, even though it will allow more air into the engine, that air is still the same density. A turbocharger increases that density, so the even though the intake valves are depressed for the same amount of time all the time, and they are depressed the same distance, more air molecules get into the engine at higher RPMs because the air is denser.

With VTEC, it is still just a more aggressive cam on a naturally aspirated engine, and the maximum airflow during VTEC engagement is always the same (ignoring temperature of course). On a turbo engine, there is no need for that aggressive cam lobe, because at higher RPMs, more air is getting in anyway, and since the cam is not aggressive, it still has a normal idle. The turbocharged engine does have a benefit also, by lacking VTEC, it lacks the chance of mechanical failure of that part. VTEC is a wonderful invention, though, because it is a way for a NA engine to perform better at the top end, while still getting excelent gas mileage.
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