EVO MR FQ400 vs. Corvette Z06 vs. Mustang Cobra R

[flsurf420]

well the evo puts out 405 at 6800rpm and the corvette at 6k, and motor for motor the corvette takes the evo seeing how the mr uses forced induction. supercharge the ls1 and you've got yourself a badass motor which is much more than an ordinary evo. also look at the torque 355 vs 400. and then you've got weight. so the only real way to test this is not only on a straight track but on a few curves. but honestly you cant compare new to old, they upped the hp in the evo so why cant chevy? (meaning use the 05 z06 instead) and seeing how were talking new, lets not get started on the ls2...

[TatII]

you make the FQ sound like it can't handle compared to a Vette. on the top gear test track, the FQ was almost as fast a 500hp lamborghini gallardo.

[Mtang36]

Originally Posted by TatII

you make the FQ sound like it can't handle compared to a Vette. on the top gear test track, the FQ was almost as fast a 500hp lamborghini gallardo.

The Murcielago. Not the Gallardo. It beat the Gallardo. On straights as well and by quite a bit.

[3000ways]

Originally Posted by flsurf420

well the evo puts out 405 at 6800rpm and the corvette at 6k, and motor for motor the corvette takes the evo seeing how the mr uses forced induction. supercharge the ls1 and you've got yourself a badass motor which is much more than an ordinary evo. also look at the torque 355 vs 400. and then you've got weight. so the only real way to test this is not only on a straight track but on a few curves. but honestly you cant compare new to old, they upped the hp in the evo so why cant chevy? (meaning use the 05 z06 instead) and seeing how were talking new, lets not get started on the ls2...

I wouldn't really consider the 2004 Z06 as old, and last time I checked the C6 Z06 is suppose to be a 2006 model, so really what are you talking about? And supercharge this and it will be better, I'm asking how the cars compare stock for stock so stay on topic, and I wouldn't under estimate the 4G63T.

[Vettribution87]

I would obviously choose the Z06 followed by the Stang.
The problem I have with the Lancer is it seems quite unusual to have a 4cyl engine doing 405hp from the factory. Something in the back of my mind keeps saying, "What’s the catch?".

[Neutrino]

Originally Posted by Vettribution87

I would obviously choose the Z06 followed by the Stang.
The problem I have with the Lancer is it seems quite unusual to have a 4cyl engine doing 405hp from the factory. Something in the back of my mind keeps saying, "What’s the catch?".

Ther catch is there will be very few of them and quite expensive.


And its not 405 from the factory, they come in england as regular lancer EVOs and they get torn up there and fully rebuild by the same guys that build Mitsu's WRC engines. So you can rest assured that the engine is bulletproof.

[Vettribution87]

Originally Posted by Neutrino

Ther catch is there will be very few of them and quite expensive.


And its not 405 from the factory, they come in england as regular lancer EVOs and they get torn up there and fully rebuild by the same guys that build Mitsu's WRC engines. So you can rest assured that the engine is bulletproof.

So it’s kind of like the same deal as with the Callaway Corvettes.

ie: Standard car goes from factory to a tuning workshop where the engine is stripped down and rebuilt with different parts and added performance accessories.

[Kurtdg19]

Originally Posted by Vettribution87

I would obviously choose the Z06 followed by the Stang.
The problem I have with the Lancer is it seems quite unusual to have a 4cyl engine doing 405hp from the factory. Something in the back of my mind keeps saying, "What’s the catch?".

I do know what you mean as far as having a small 4cylinder pushing 405hp. That is absolutley ridiculous....and quite impressive at the same time. Although these cars make their horsepower in very unique and mutually different ways, the same general reason remains. These are engines built to serve our passionate lives in a more thrilling sensation. A feeling that gives' somebody a reason to get up early in the morning. (or not....maybe its only me?) But you get the idea, all these cars are very respectable cars, that deserve their respect (as they do recieve). In the end of it all, different cars are loved to be essentially hated. And thus, the great automotive individuality and backing begins!

Crazy Automotive Theory 101 and a half..

[Neutrino]

Originally Posted by Vettribution87

So it’s kind of like the same deal as with the Callaway Corvettes.

ie: Standard car goes from factory to a tuning workshop where the engine is stripped down and rebuilt with different parts and added performance accessories.

kind of, but the EVO FQ 400 has official factory backing and involvement so its not considered a tuner car.

Chevy could do the same with lingenfelter or callaway but they would have to be responsible for the cars. Submit them to the DOT as part of their fleet, and offer waranties to customers.

[Vettribution87]

Originally Posted by Neutrino

kind of, but the EVO FQ 400 has official factory backing and involvement so its not considered a tuner car.

Chevy could do the same with lingenfelter or callaway but they would have to be responsible for the cars. Submit them to the DOT as part of their fleet, and offer waranties to customers.

It would be interesting if Chevy did something similar with the Vette but it would probably be far too expensive. If they stuck a built racing LS2 engine in a Corvette it would probably fall short of being street legal.

[Neutrino]

Originally Posted by Vettribution87

It would be interesting if Chevy did something similar with the Vette but it would probably be far too expensive. If they stuck a built racing LS2 engine in a Corvette it would probably fall short of being street legal.

true its not easy for manufacturers to do stuff like that, they have to certify the whole car all over again to make sure its road legal. And probably the worst is offering warranties. People would take that vette and abuse at the strip and road courses, and chevy would have to train a bunch of technicians all over the country to fix it.

[NISSANSPDR]

I think the closest thing I can think of is AMG, the M branch, SVT w/Ford, PVO w/Dodge, etc...tuned in house...w/warranties

[NerveAgent]

2005 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution MR FQ400
recockulous value.

[huckleberrydude]

no way I would take a poor build quality vehichle over a vette. The vette has the same hp and more torque at less than 3100lbs. the vette is not all tweaked out and has a lot of extra hp potential out of the box. But I'm biased since I drive a Z06. I went 11.9 with only headers and CAI on factory tires. for about five grand I'll be deep in the 10s. All this for a road race car that just happens to go fast in a straight line+chicks dig it.

[drunken monkey]

wait a minute, did someone say they'd wouldn't take a 'poor build quality' vehicle over a corvette?
since when were corvettes high quality build/material cars?