Road & Track Compares M3, Z06, & 911

[Chris]

The Z06 was made to be a road course racer, not jsut a straight line rocket. It is much faster around the road course (R&T even said the M3 UNDERSTEERS!!!) I have nothing against the M3, but give credit when credit is due, the Z06 is simply the best road-course car you can get for the money!

[Racer 20]

Originally posted by Chris
...the Z06 is simply the best road-course car you can get for the money!

True...

[Chris]

To ThunderFish911, I NEVER MEANT TO INSULT THE VIPER!!!!!! I agree, it beats the snot out of tons of European cars for WAY less money. And I was quoting CHEVYS FACTORY DATA for the Z06's acceleration times (elsewhere in this site, privateers have recorded times as low as 4.1 seconds, a pro could beat that) I LOVE the Viper, I also love the Z06. Just give credit where it is due!!! BOTH are tremendous performers, the Z06 is just a better bang-for-the-buck (which is what you were using to defend the Viper)

[HeavyRightFOOT]

Originally posted by Racer 20
What's wrong with you guys? An M3 will rip the engine right out of a stock C5. Especially on the turns. Do you guys understand the potentialy of this car with the right driver? That 01 M3 was faster than the 00 M5. There is no chance in hell it is faster in a strait line but in certain conditions the M3 is ZO6 competition.

I havea really really tough time believing that. Maybe an M3 will be competition to a regular C5 Coupe (in certain conditions) but not a Z06. The M3 si suppose to be faster than the M5, it's a coupe will the M5 is a sedan. Plus the M5 weighs 4000lbs and has excessive amounts of body roll.

[Z06Lover]

Originally posted by MrCorvetteZ06
M3 the freshest?? Z06 was first driven in August, and I thought that the M3 had been around for a few years. In C&D, they did a comparison between the Viper GTS ACR, Cobra R, and Z06 and ranked the R third, GTS 2nd, and Z06 first. They said the Z06 wasn't the fastest(0-60 in 4.5??) while the Viper was a 4.3 and the R was a 4.6?? Also, the R handled the best with a .98 while the GTS had a .96 and the vette a .93 WTF?? What really upset me was in earlier editions the vette did 0-60 in 4.2 and had a .99 on the skid-pad. The vette still won though, because they said even though it wasn't the fastest (the viper was quicker)the interior was the nicest, and also it was almost half the cost of the GTS. I like car and driver the best out of C&D, MT, and R&T though. It seems that they are the most unbiased and also the most humurous.

Well remember the skid pad isn't the tell all of handling. It is actually quite poor at showing track prowress. The Supra turbo is known for having great slalom and skid pad numbers...and sucking ass on the track.

[LakeMountLude]

they are gay! although personally a 911 turbo would spank a vette.. vettes are fast as shit! but an m3 shouldnt even be in that category! they are nice and all but def not a fast sports car...

[Racer 20]

it wasn't the 911 turbo just the 911

[GT-R V-Spec]

That is pretty weak of them guys :smoka:

[Chris]

Yeah, a vette is awesome. It is also 30 grand cheaper than a 911, and 80 grand less than an (amazing) 911 turbo. It is awesome!

[Tay Jay]

Originally posted by Racer 20
What's wrong with you guys? An M3 will rip the engine right out of a stock C5. Especially on the turns. Do you guys understand the potentialy of this car with the right driver? That 01 M3 was faster than the 00 M5. There is no chance in hell it is faster in a strait line but in certain conditions the M3 is ZO6 competition.

LAY OFF THE CRACK PIPE...

[hakka]

crack pipe..LOL. I think that the C5 and M3 would be close, but the C5 would still win. I don't know, maybe I'm just a little more partial to Vettes

[psycovette]

That is a stupid article. I think its nuts to compare a M3 to even a stock C5. I was stationed in Germany and I had my C5 overthere. I was smoking Beamers and Mercedes all the time, as well as I could run with the higherend porches. The 911 is a great car it is the only one desearving of the comparison. They should be comparing M3's to Mustangs. The only Beamer that should be compared to a Vette is the new Z-8. I have taken my car on tight German roads doing 150 Mph and out turning Porches and waisting beamers before. I would expect the Germans to make a fast sedan because evrything overthere is designed for the Autobon so what! But I think the Corvette C5 is redeemed just for the fact that is the first mass produced American muscle to run with the German cars in areas other than the straight line. The Z-06 can turn 1 lateral G there are not many cars that can do that. I always question those roadtests because I see porches at the track all the time and I have no problem running with them. I will admit the Turbo 911 is faster but lets run one against a Lingenfelter Vette, then it will be on the same ground. I think it is comparing apples and oranges to compare a N/A car to a Turbo.

My .02

[psycovette]

I wouldnt care if the Beeeeeeeeeemer could smoke the C5 from 0-60, which car is going to turn heads at a stoplight. An M3 looks like a BMW big deal. When I was in Germany I had more blondes wanting to get in my car then I could count So I will take the looks of the Vette over a regular Beeeeeeeeemer any day. Hell I would even take a C4 or a 70's Stingray over a Beeeeeemer and I dont even really care for the older vettes at all.

[Z06Lover]

check out the new article in Motortrend.
0-60 M3 4.64 1/4 13.1
0-60 Z06 4.24 1/4 12.5 (i think)
the biggest thing is that 0-100 flashes by over 2 secs faster in the Z06. The slalom was pretty amazing...the Z06 and M3 had the exact same speed, 68.99 mph..i think. The Z06 won every performance category except tying the M3 in the slalom. This was the 2001 Z06 not the 405HP 2002 Z06.

The M3 performed admirably though for weighing over 350lbs more then the Z06 and giving up 50HP. It also sits 4.

As far as the C5 getting you more chicks in Germany...duh... it is super rare in europe. A new M3 seems to have the same affect here in the states!! My car seems to attract them also!! Anyway, some interesting numbers...either way...you can't go wrong with either car. I think the C5 and M3 are probably good matches in about any race...save a top speed run. But, other then that....pretty damn close.

[hakka]

Z06Lover...what kind of car do you have? The link in your sig isn't working.