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10-31-2004, 09:46 AM | #16 | |
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Re: Is the Chevelle 454 LS6 the fastest Muscle Car?
well fastest muscle car 60's -early 70's (72) the chevelle is the bad ass of bad asses, 450hp factory but in fact it was closer to 500 + hp now there is ZL1 and fords 428 and hemi and this and that and more or that then this, ok now ZL1 nobody can really match the ZL1 rated at 556 hp but really had more then 600hp and the new body ZL1 one web site shows one with 775hp. Now most guys would say but my ZO6 can beat old cars and it runs low 12s or whatever, now think how heavy the old cars are compare to the new ones of today and a vette come on a 440 charger runs high 11s on stock tires and a zo6 a stock zo6 runs low 12s now put that not lets put a LS6 motor from a 70 chevelle and put it in a zo6 body and think what it can run. now with todays cars all they did was drop the weight, and now use computers and now you can buy perf chips and this and that now most WOULD SAY THAT a 66 shelby cobra 427 is the fastest but then your leaving out the 66 427 vette stingray wich IN FACT , FACT people is faster and thee fastest, But why say that a LS6 chevelle is the fastest Well im sorry but not every could own a 66 427 vette stingray so got the next best thing LS6 chevelle but all in all in not about the fastest is muscle cars rule the streets and will always rule doesnt matter gas prices to go cruz on the open road then to punch it there is nothing like a real muscle car ford , GM, doesnt matter
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11-01-2004, 02:19 PM | #17 | |
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Re: Is the Chevelle 454 LS6 the fastest Muscle Car?
Is this thread considered dead yet...it seems like weeks between posts...it was started in july....how bout it just gets killed?
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11-04-2004, 12:45 AM | #18 | |
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Re: Is the Chevelle 454 LS6 the fastest Muscle Car?
ZL1's fastest tested ET was a 10.14 @ 132mph
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11-14-2004, 07:45 AM | #19 | |
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Re: Is the Chevelle 454 LS6 the fastest Muscle Car?
what about the ZL-1?
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11-21-2004, 06:29 PM | #20 | |
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Re: Is the Chevelle 454 LS6 the fastest Muscle Car?
i seen in alot of magzines that the 66 shelby cobra 427 because it had alot of power with very little weight, i think its like 1 hp per 3 pounds or something like that
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11-27-2004, 02:57 AM | #21 | |
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Re: Is the Chevelle 454 LS6 the fastest Muscle Car?
The Hurst Hemi dart is without a doubt, the fastest ever built by Detroit. Right out of the box it ran in the 9's. In comparision, the Ls6 Heavy Chevy, was the last of the greats. Its the pinicale of the horsepower wars the big 3 were having and the federal government killed all the fun in 1971 when the insurance industry and EPA got their hooks into the industry.
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12-14-2004, 02:10 AM | #22 | |
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Re: Is the Chevelle 454 LS6 the fastest Muscle Car?
the fastest production car i hate to say was a buick gsx right off the show room floor or a olds w30 or 31 i'm not sure about the #'s on olds but i know it was one of those two cars they did a test a while back and the buick was the fastest out of all the muscle cars in their time.
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12-22-2004, 04:49 AM | #23 | ||
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12-27-2004, 04:04 PM | #25 | |
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Chevelle LS6 454 fastest musclecar
Ok let me first say that you all have valid points on the fastest musclecar. But I will try to make a general statement as to why I think the LS6 is king. I know first off that I have generally been a Mopar guy my whole life and had many arguments about this before defending certain cars, but the one that always comes out on top is the 70 LS6, and here is why.
Most people would agree that the first musclecar was the 64 gto. Most people would agree that the last musclecar was the 74 SD Trans Am, or other 74 cars such as 74 GTX package Road runners, 360 cars, either way if you assume this than you are talking about the period of 64-74. Yeah I know about "late" musclecars but I am making a generalization. Chevrolet produced over 2200 LS6 Chevelles, as a "packaged musclecar". That would definately put it in a mass production state. My experiences of seeing musclecars over the years have brought me to believe that this car was and is still the car to beat, this may piss alot of people off, especially my Mopar bretheren. Why not a Hemi? Simple. Assuming you put up a HemiCuda. The fastest road test I have seen ran a 13.10. I have never seen a stock Hemicuda run this. In all of my years, at the Mopar Drag races, never. I have seen an LS6 chevelle run a 12.90 and this was in the 80's before all of these Buicks came out. They never ran 12's stock back in the day, even though NHRA refactored their 360hp rating to 400, because they were whipping people with the stage 1. Personally the fastest "Stock" car I have ever seen run was a 68 GTO RAII. I looked it over and even talked to the owner and it ran a 12.51, and drove to the track and back, with 3.55 safe-t-track rear. Anyway I think as a whole that the majority of LS6 Chevelles are the fastest mass produced musclecars. I can hear the replies- |
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12-28-2004, 01:40 PM | #26 | |
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Re: Is the Chevelle 454 LS6 the fastest Muscle Car?
Wedgemotor,
Good for you! Logic overrides emotion! I get a bit of razzing for that one! But seriously, I've been wracking my brain, trying to remember. I recall a commercial ad for the '70 Super Bee 6-Pack. They claimed the car would go 12s or your money back! I also recall the ad, where the guy grabbed the gears and made a 12.80 pass. I have also never seen a true STOCK Hemi car go 12s. Usually, it's traction issues, more than power or handling. Some good slicks on them, and watch it! But the statement about slicks could be applied to all of them. I know of at least two '65 GTO TriPower cars that went 12.60 with no changes other than slicks. They were 4.33/4-speed cars, so they were intended to go FAST in a 1/4 mile. I know of a low 11 second SS454 Chevelle with slicks and gears, still has iron exhaust. At Indy this year, there was a D/SA '67 Firebird 400 running 10.70 all weekend. That's slicks, headers, gears and other traction equipment, STOCK engine, right down to the correct Q-Jet and points. If that car can run THAT HARD, imagine what a 454 Chevelle can do with similar mods. I guess NHRA factored them to death, or they would be dominant. FWIW Jim |
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I am glad you understand where I am coming from pbody. I know that given all the right circumstances a Hemi car can't lose... but I was talking about a musclecar package though. Six pack cars are hard to beat. I know of a guy in Ohio who has, two V-code 70 challengers and both cars run 13.5 ets on polyglass tires and both cars are stock, (I saw the rebuild) and run 3.55 sure grips with a torque flight. Here is the kicker, one of them has never been rebuilt! It is also a convertible! I believe they only made about 40 or so. cool stuff!
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01-04-2005, 07:43 AM | #28 | |
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Re: Re: Is the Chevelle 454 LS6 the fastest Muscle Car?
The Nova with the 396 and L88 heads from the Factory was the fastest at our drag strip. He ran high 11's all the time there were several Hemi Cuda's that ran there but they never could hook up very well.There was a real fast "72" GS Buick with a 455. That also broke into the 11's . This was a Pure stock class we ran in only slicks and gearing could be used to improve performance. Who was fastest at your drag strip? Magazines are cool with alot of info but from one year to the next no one agrees about How the competion should be ran or who's the fastest. I just go by who blew my Doors off.
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02-03-2005, 10:48 AM | #29 | |
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Re: Is the Chevelle 454 LS6 the fastest Muscle Car?
This may be an old thread, but were taking GREAT American history here!
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