Which Engine for Forced Induction??

[SenseiAccord]

So wait what would happen if u run 12psi to the GSR? All this FI stuff is confusing for me and the battle between engines

[tran_nsx]

Originally Posted by SenseiAccord

So wait what would happen if u run 12psi to the GSR? All this FI stuff is confusing for me and the battle between engines

u can can't run 12 psi's on a stock b18c1 (gsr), well u can but there goes your engine.

[PWMAN]

Originally Posted by SenseiAccord

So wait what would happen if u run 12psi to the GSR? All this FI stuff is confusing for me and the battle between engines

You can run 12 PSI on the internals, but not on pump gas. It will detonate because the compression in a GSR is much higher to begin with than an LS.

[SenseiAccord]

Originally Posted by PWMAN

You can run 12 PSI on the internals, but not on pump gas. It will detonate because the compression in a GSR is much higher to begin with than an LS.

oh yea i forgot about the different compression ratios. Alright thanx people!

[F23A4Racer750IL]

Originally Posted by whtteg

And just FYI the H22A is the worst motor out of the ones listed in the poll. Even though ppl have voted for it, it is a problem matic motor when boosted on stock internals.

ur sayin the D-series is better for turbo than the H22??

[Thepeug]

This thread is ancient.

[tran_nsx]

Originally Posted by Thepeug

This thread is ancient.

thanks i didn't even noticed.

atleast the question was answered so people don't have to argue about this debate over and over again, especially about the b18b and b18c1. it gets really annoying to see the same freaken thread topics in different forums. the mods should move them all to one forum so everyone is on the same page. one thing that dumbfounds me is the fact that even after i gave proof of the two dynos, why are people still voting for the the b18c1. they must not be reading the posts or they are really ignorant and stubborn headed. as far as how much power can be extracted, there's even dynos of over 650hp coming out of the the b18b, so power is not an issue at all.

[Thepeug]

[quote=tran_nsx] it gets really annoying to see the same freaken thread topics in different forums. QUOTE]

I completely agree. Unfortunately, no matter how extensively moderators monitor the forums, it'll always happen.

[whtteg]

Holy crap this thread has got long I have not popped back in here in a long time lol. Will it ever die?

Originally Posted by F23A4Racer750IL

ur sayin the D-series is better for turbo than the H22??

Not really but I have known more stock D series motors to be boosted with better luck than the H22A. I was mostly talking about in the DOHC aspect, but I would take a D series and boost it before I would boost the H22A

[joecheez]

and I understand this was a stock motor discussion thread and people did not read before voting displacment first. This being said I take issue to bad H22A marks after a built motor at least. I have seen 16 H22A's come out of the two shops in my area (8 and 4) with 9.5-1 JE pistons and numbers like 8PSI 250 HP, 16 PSI with 360 to the wheels, both on pump gas set up to run on the street mostly and at the track on the weekends, mind you all of them sleeved. I have also seen the same ones with 440-650HP on C16 gas with the bigger injectors. He also has a new race motor to take the place of the turbo built GSR which ran an 8.61 at moroso a few months back which had about 670 to the wheels in a tube framed hatchback. The new motor, an H22A to 2.3 like my basic build will produce over 1000 HP to the wheels and they are hoping to achieve high 7's from this H23A DOHCVTECed monster.

[whtteg]

The sleeves are the reason I said they were the worst motor to boost. It is just like tring to boost a B20 their cylinder walls are too thin. Yes res;eeving it would be a very, very good move

[eckoman_pdx]

As whtteg already said, the reason the H22 isn't considered a good motor to boost is because the cylinder walls are thin. The can wobble and crack under too much boost. As he said, the same is true with a B20. A B20 is essentailly a bored out B18B1. Re-sleeving the H22 or B20 is a very good place to start. If you are doing a full motor build, re-sleeving takes care of one of the more things that makes boosting these motors not the most ideal set-up in the world. Re-sleeving a motor and building it up can make almost any of the honda motors worthy of boost, so to speak. However, most people in the scene will never do a full build. Even if they talk about it, it doesn't happen. As a result, the H22 isn't the greatest motor to boost, since we are talking boosting stockers. If your going to build a motor, what motor you build and what you do to strengthen the block, etc...depends mostly on your buget. The H22 can be boosted and make power, thats true. But as whtteg said, if your doing this, re-sleeving is a good place to start. If you arn't interested in building a motor, you are looking to mildly build and boost a motor, the H22 isn't the greatest choice then, since, as we said, the cylinder walls (sleeves) are thin and prone to crack under too much boost.

[PWMAN]

Originally Posted by eckoman_pdx

However, most people in the scene will never do a full build. Even if they talk about it, it doesn't happen. .

This happens when people find out how much it is to resleeve the block. LOL

[eckoman_pdx]

Originally Posted by PWMAN

This happens when people find out how much it is to resleeve the block. LOL

Yes, among other things they discover the price on...lol..."what??? you mean it costs money to make my motor stronger??? that's messed up..."...LOL

[Miataracer]

good lord... trying to read this whole post has given me a headache!