Y do people hate hondas so much....

[lazysmurff]

so do you hate hondas, or do you hate everyone for buying the same brand?

[crazyelmo]

Originally Posted by jcz1987

I can see why people hate Hondas. First of all, Hondas are imports that are affordable and popular among teens. Younger people tend to "sup" up these cars becasue their cheap and look "cool." Second they are the most stolen cars in the United States. Personally, I think Hondas are OK. But what I hate about them is that people think that their little "rice rocket" can outrun a Ferrari or Lamborghini. A while back, Some guy in his Civic was saying shit that his Civic can eat my Subaru. Turns out I beat him easily.

I agree with you. I hate when kids in thier rice rockets think there so hotshit. It's funny to see how they think they're the best with thier hondas!

[Prelewd]

Originally Posted by crazyelmo

I agree with you. I hate when kids in thier rice rockets think there so hotshit. It's funny to see how they think they're the best with thier hondas!

You could say that about any car owners.. except for maybe the pagani or mclaren group..

[Little_Stang87]

I don't hate hondas (that much) it really depends on if they are way too Lookish...but there is nothing wrong with it.

[Raz_Kaz]

I don't haye Honda's either...I just hate the cars that have bigger stickers than wings and tha jack-ass half brain spoiled little bratt driving it and claiming to have the fastest car because of a couple of gt-r and type-r badges.

[D[X]P]

Originally Posted by lazysmurff

so do you hate hondas, or do you hate everyone for buying the same brand?

I said In my last post that I dont hate hondas. Hondas are cool with me

[Jimster]

People hate Hondas for one reason. To be trendy and disguise the fact that they know nothing.

Most people over look the fact that Honda along with Alfa Romeo and Peugeot/Citroen and most recently Ford/Mazda (focus, KA, Fiesta, Mondeo, 2, 3, 6), have pioneered the entertaining Front-drive chassis.

Even a base model Civic provides an entertaining drive, with dynamics far better than any other Front-drive Small-Medium Japper. Except maybe the Mazda3.

Or how about 250 bhp out of a 2.0 16 valve N/A 4 Cylinder motor?? Very few have matched that.

Nothing wong with Honda at all, only Ferrari and BMW can out-engineer them.

[TankMMC]

Originally Posted by Jimster

Even a base model Civic provides an entertaining drive, with dynamics far better than any other Front-drive Small-Medium Japper. Except maybe the Mazda3.

The TS Corolla is a fuckload more fun to drive than any Civic I've driven (which is pretty much all of them, from the new 1.7L ones to the dirty old "Hondamatic" ones, and the b16A powered SiR.)

As for the honda-hating thing, some of it is ignorance, and some of it is fueled by stupid Honda-owning ricers who talk a lot of shit, like the guy at my work who to this day claims he beat an EVO5 on the motorway in his DC2 integra (which is a really nice car by itself, but not quite evo5- wasting material.
Honda makes some of the worlds best N/A engines, its a shame it gets a bad name as a result of stupid people buying their cars.

[publicenemy137]

^ their only good n/a engine is the S2k, other than that all the other ones are made for fuel efficiency. the NSX"s engine is good too but way too much for it's price.

[TankMMC]

Are you saying they didnt have any good performance-oriented engines before the S2000 came out?

[Joseph1082]

What n/a 2.0L has 250HP??? The S2K has 240

[publicenemy137]

Originally Posted by TankMMC

Are you saying they didnt have any good performance-oriented engines before the S2000 came out?

compared to other engines, not really. H22A's aren't all that great, b18c's aren't that great either. non-turboed four bangers that get good mileage, get 15s in 1/4 mile, aren't considered good performance-oriented engines. And any FWD car isn't considered a performance oriented racing car either.

[2strokebloke]

Honda's very first cars were sports cars, the S500, S600, S800. The engines offered decent output for their size.
Even their non-performance cars offered rather good outputs, the N360 giving good ammount from 360cc, though much higher revving than it's 2-stroke competitors, and less well behaved (but less smoke too!)
They didn't make the highest powered engine in the 360 class, that goes to Mitsubishi, but they were one of the first companies to believe that buyers of small cars might want some more fun, and took aim at the younger section of the market, otherwise Subaru would've probably continued dominating Japan's small car market.

[lazysmurff]

the h22a isnt that great eh?

lets not forget there are NA H22's running low ten's

thats not a half bad engine if you ask me

[Prelewd]

Originally Posted by publicenemy137

compared to other engines, not really. H22A's aren't all that great, b18c's aren't that great either. non-turboed four bangers that get good mileage, get 15s in 1/4 mile, aren't considered good performance-oriented engines. And any FWD car isn't considered a performance oriented racing car either.

Hey man.. at least Honda didn't have to use boost to get there.. [cough]GS-X/GS-T[ccough/] As far as racing is concerned, reliability is an issue as well.

As far as FWD is concerned, I know you can pull a g on the skidpad with minor suspension work in a prelude.. I can't say the same about the teg, but being lighter, and having a bigger aftermarket, I wouldn't imagine it's much different. I have personally shook a few cars, that'd be faster on the straight, through the corners.

Wont a 200hp ITR take a 220hp Silvia stock for stock anyway?