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Old 12-18-2001, 09:57 PM   #1
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JDM B16a Spotting!!!!!

Heres a good reason why AF is one of the best sites on the net!

I believe we could well be the first site to have found out the only reliable way to tell all the different B16a engines apart.
(well I did, I snuck a look at the JDM parts manual at my local honda service center)

Most people know there are two first generation B16a engines, both with 160hp.
The 1million series and the 5million series. Meaning the engine number starts with either a 1 or a 5

The 1million series were avliable in the Integra XSi and RSi from 1990 to 1991. And I can confirm there was an Auto option.
The 1.2million series was avliable in the 92 XSi and RSi, and was also avliable with an Auto.

The 5million series was in the Civic and CRX SiR, and no Auto was avliable. However when the 5gen Civic was released the hp was upped to 170hp, but the engine numbers continued on starting with a 5, and other than some visual differnces it can be hard to tell if you have a 160 or 170hp engine.

Well here are the numbers after the 5-
50 1990 160hp }
52 1991 160hp }4g Civic/CRX SiR
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54 1992- 170hp 5th and 6th gen SiR, SiRII and CRX delsol SiR.


Am I a god or what!
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Re: JDM B16a Spotting!!!!!

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[b]Heres a good reason why AF is one of the best sites on the net!
Is it the best site on the net cause you just repost all the PureHonda info posts?

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I miss PH, its just not the same over here... someone give me a bunch of money so I can buy em out and reopen the forums over there
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Re: Re: JDM B16a Spotting!!!!!

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Is it the best site on the net cause you just repost all the PureHonda info posts?

*sigh*

I miss PH, its just not the same over here... someone give me a bunch of money so I can buy em out and reopen the forums over there
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its just that everyone's left
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Re: Re: JDM B16a Spotting!!!!!

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Is it the best site on the net cause you just repost all the PureHonda info posts?
Hey its my Post, I can repost it where ever I like!!!

It should really have been turned into an article for PH, but oh well.............................
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Re: Re: JDM B16a Spotting!!!!!

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Is it the best site on the net cause you just repost all the PureHonda info posts?

*sigh*

I miss PH, its just not the same over here... someone give me a bunch of money so I can buy em out and reopen the forums over there


I'm kinda in the dark here, one day pure honda was asking for money, then the next day I can't get into the site and check my email, and then the next purehonda is gone and there is a classifieds place with the same forums in a different color. Can anyone clue me in to what happened. Thanks
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the wasn't enough money to keep it going you can check your mail here
http://purehonda.services.everyone.net/
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thanks

sorry about the delay, I haven't been to these forums in a while, but thanks for the information.
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Old 02-04-2002, 11:31 AM   #8
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tranny

ok, I have an 89 civic that I want to put the b16a into, only problem is the car is auto and the tranny that comes with the engine is a manual, is there an auto tranny that will work, and where should I start looking for one? and if not, how hard is it to convert the car to manual?
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there are b16a's available with automatic tranny's. I've seen them on ebay. Most are stick though for obvious reasons. I don't know the whole gist of converting auto to stick but I know its a pain in the ass and might not be worth it. You could always sell the car and purchase one of the same value but stick and drop it in there. Good luck on your swap however you plan on doing it.
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The auto B16As are 5G aren't they? That or Integra. I'm not certain but... I think the auto gearbox rear mount is the same as the SiR one. This is a very unconfirmed report though... I've only heard someone say it once.
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Keep up the JDM!!! I'm in the process of researching a B16A swap for my '89 Integra. Looks like a good, informative place here. Hopefully the swap will materialize in the near future.
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Re: Re: JDM B16a Spotting!!!!!

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Is it the best site on the net cause you just repost all the PureHonda info posts?

*sigh*

I miss PH, its just not the same over here... someone give me a bunch of money so I can buy em out and reopen the forums over there
i miss the old PH too
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I miss pH to :tear:
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I miss PH...

But anyways...

...you forgot to mention one of the biggest differences between 1million and 5million series b16's. The 1mil b16's had shorter gearing and allows for better acceleration but, was never opted with LSD.

The 5mil engines had taller gearing and allowed for higher top speeds and had the LSD option. This is what I had in my old 'Teg (including LSD) which allowed me to top 155+MPH...of course, my engine redlined at 10,000RPM's...
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Somehow I think you are very wrong with this. Seeing as the 4G SiR Civics had the shorter, better gearing for acceleration and were optioned with an LSD (and ABS). Now these engines fall under the 5mil classification, so...

Somehow I think that top speed was irrelevent when Honda designed the gearboxes - given a 180km/h speed limiter on all JDM cars
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