ok, im calm, now, does anyone know how much the evo will be in the US?

[yamil]

i need to know the price, any hopes for around 25k or 26k? it would be sorta impossible for me to spend anymore than that.

[violinandy]

it looks to me like 25 or 26k would be the minimum possible price for a bare bones, no options EVO, and thats sort of stretching it. You might have to save up another couple years for an EVO. IMHO they are probably gonna be 30 + for a brand new one. I have pretty much given up on buying one new, too expensive. I am waiting for them to hit the used car market.

[BLUE AND BLACK]

But if everyone is thinking the same as you are, there won't be that many available in a couple of years. Besides that, the ones imported will probably be used as rallycar or so called 0 number cars (cars that inspect the rallytrack). Not to sure if you want to own that one.

Same here. There are just a few really road going EVO's around.

Anyway if one comes available in the US for 37K I will consider it as cheap. We are told to expect a price around 52K US dollars.

Nico

[yamil]

hey man..the WRX is pretty good and its high 24k and 25k...and the lancer is supposed to compete with WRX, how can it be that much more expensive man? thats crazy...i dont want to put anyone down....and i dont know much...but i think 37k is too much.

[BLUE AND BLACK]

Absolutely no way that the WRX is in the EVO league. I own both a MY99 GTturbo (that's a 218 hp base model, the same kind you get in the US) and a MY00 EVO VI RS2. The EVO is more agressive, more direct and has a much, much firmer ride.

Chipping the GTturbo (allowing 1.2 bar boost) makes it more quick down low. Straight line performance 0-60 km/h might be the same, but above the EVO rules. Same goes for roadhandling. You have to tweek the suspension very much to get the same results.

I agree that the pricedifference is rather steep. But if you want reliable high output base performance, the EVO is where to start. You have to stretch the WRX to get to the baseline of the EVO.

Nico

[yamil]

what do u mean chipping? please explain...more or les...what i have to do to get the wrx to be same or a little better than a stock EVO.

[BLUE AND BLACK]

There is an Aussie company called chiptorque that's sells a piggybag chip for the pre new impreza models. In combo with a bleed, you're able to run 1.2 bar safely with this chip. With a full open system you'll be able to get 270 HP and 370 Nm. Downside is that the turbo in the WRX is so small, there's no more ooomph after 4,000 RPM.

The EVO takes off at 3,500 RPM. Below that it feels more sluggish, but that is compensted by the different (shorter) gearing.

Don't know if the chip is available for the US. As for 227 HP... it appears that the US version is different. Therefore I don't know if Aussie or Euro ECU add on stuff will work reliable.

Check I-club (www.i-club.com) for more info on the US model

Nico

[yamil]

hey, i appreciate you helping me, im learninga lot....listen...so from what i saw in that webstie...its basically telling me that i can make the U.S model and STI model

whaaoo...this is so cool, i will be at 280 hp soon, say bye bye to all stock mustangs..... correct me if im wrong. :frog:

[SinisterSavior]

Well i saw an ad in either road and track(the one about future cars) or sport compact cars the other day and i saw a ad for the lancer for 14,000. maybe i read it wrong but i dont think so check it out im going to again.

[violinandy]

lancer does not = Evo. Lancers cost 14k, Evos dont unless they are really old and in bad condition.

[MightyAl]

If mitsu prices it at 30k+ they will have a colossol failure on their hands. Hell i can buy a nice MkIV Supra for that much and mod it to 400hp to boot. For the EVO to make it in the states it has to compete with the WRX. From what i have heard it is priced right around where the WRX is from the figures i have seen from England. I will definitely buy an EVO if it is ~28k optioned out...if not i will continue looking for a Supra. I read in Turbo magazine that MotoRex is thinking about importing the IV, V, and VI even if the VII is imported to the states. I see that these companies are going to import these cars but i dont hear whether they will be street legal and what kind of prices will be attached to them. Oh well for now it seems i will wait and watch, and save my nickels and dimes.

Cheers,
Al

[xencloud]

I don't really understand everyone who's comparing the wrx to the evo vii in the U.S. The wrx is 227 hp at the engine, I heard it's more like 180-190 bhp(at the wheels). The evo vii is 280bhp, and around 340 engine. You can easily speed up both of them, but an sti wrx has tops around what the evo has stock. With some minor tuning mods(no big $ pieces of equipment), the evo vii can easily be jumped to 340bhp, and a bit over 400 engine. It's four wheel drive system is much improved over a wrx, and handling is much, much sharper. A wrx costs 25K, but it's an inferior car at this point, no matter how you look at it. I was going to keep saving this info, but the expected price for the evo vii in the u.s. WILL be around $32-33K base and $35-36K optioned out.(I have more U.S. info, too, but not releasing it quite yet! ) In my opinion, a small price to pay for a car that can be modified to beat just about any road car you'd ever see in the U.S. for around $40k, porsches and corvettes included. Now if you're lookin for value over braun, I'd probably go for the regular wrx, and just mod it a little, and you'd have a very fast car nonetheless, but still no where near a souped up evo vii. Anyway, two different kind of cars, but if I was going to spend the money, I'd shoot for an evo.

[MightyAl]

That seems kind of weird since the gray market EVOs (the ones that are supposed to be sold here in the U.S.) are priced at around $40k. It is hard to say if the EVO will make it as a $30k+ compact car. The EVO is also in a market that effectively did not exist in America until the WRX came to our shores, which will make things even more difficult for it. It is hard to say what kind of a splash the EVO will make here in the states. The worst thing about the U.S. is the automakers here dont have the balls to go out on a ledge with a new car and all they really do is chase the trends. Who knows how many AWD Escort Cosworths Ford could have sold stateside?? Enough of my ranting...until i sit in an EVO and smash that throttle i cant really say how much i am willing to plunk down for it, hopefully that time wont be far off. Eh Xencloud what else are you hiding from the hopefuls here?

[gang$tarr]

Originally posted by yamil
and the lancer is supposed to compete with WRX

i don't know if this was mentioned but the EVO is supposed to compete with the WRX STi not the regular WRX we have

[LjasonL]

Originally posted by xencloud
I don't really understand everyone who's comparing the wrx to the evo vii in the U.S. The wrx is 227 hp at the engine, I heard it's more like 180-190 bhp(at the wheels). The evo vii is 280bhp, and around 340 engine. You can easily speed up both of them, but an sti wrx has tops around what the evo has stock. With some minor tuning mods(no big $ pieces of equipment), the evo vii can easily be jumped to 340bhp, and a bit over 400 engine.

dude... bhp does not mean at the wheels. bhp=Brake HorsePower. this is the number at the FLYWHEEL. the evo vii is rated at 280bhp, thats the power at the FLYWHEEL, or as u call it, at the "engine". thats the exact same amount as the wrx sti is rated. your numbers AND your knowledge are waaay off from fact. where in the hell did u even come up with 340hp? u need to learn a little more before u come on here and start spouting off crap saying its a fact when u really have no clue.