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07-05-2005, 01:05 PM | #16 | |
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curb weight is like 3350 pounds. heavy but not that heavy. the GTO is 3750.
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Re: 300ZX Drifting Downfalls?
Prolly because there's to much weight in the back of an NSX and it's hard to keep it steady. And they make HICAS eliminators for the 240, why wouldn't they just stick one on a Z32 and drift the thing? And I thought only JDM Z32s had HICAS and it wasn't all fo them.
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07-05-2005, 03:50 PM | #18 | |
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nah the US 300zx TT had HICAS too
i remeber becuase my friends has it i know that alot of people that i know with 300zx tt for auto-x |
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07-05-2005, 04:06 PM | #19 | |
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Re: 300ZX Drifting Downfalls?
Do they all have it?
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07-05-2005, 04:38 PM | #20 | |
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i believe all of the TT models have HICAS. the n/a do not. also teh TT have the t-tops and are heavier too. the ideal thing would be to get a non-turbo model and swap out engines.
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07-05-2005, 06:23 PM | #21 | |
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Re: 300ZX Drifting Downfalls?
one of tsuchiya's favorite cars to use for drifting was the nsx... well it was... until he crashed it...
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Re: Re: 300ZX Drifting Downfalls?
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Anyway, all Twin Turbo models came with HICAS, the NAs did not. Like the 240, ready made HICAS eliminator kits can be found for fairly cheap. T-tops were standard for the car, Twin Turbo or NA. There was a convertible version made in 93-96. A limited amount of non T-top cars, refered to as slick tops, were made through out the production run. All US slick tops were non-turbo. There was a 2+2 (had a back seat) made throughout the production run that came as both NA and TT overseas but only as NA in the US. And like the 240SX, the back seat was not so much a "seat" as it was a rear storage shelf. The NA and TT models are pretty much the same car except for a few heavier duty pieces on the TT so swapping a TT motor into a NA chassis isn't going to save any weight. http://escort-us.com/img/BM3.JPG Ignore the 747 wing on the ass. As for why you don't see them drifting? Well no matter how much money the top drift stars make now they started at the bottom. And if you've been drifting the same car for years you know what it can and can't do and how it will respond to changes in tires, suspension and power. You also have to remember that S13s, S14s, AE86s and the like are very popular with those don't get paid big money to drift. Being a big time star driving the same car as their auidence wins fans I would imagine. And: Quote:
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07-05-2005, 07:33 PM | #23 | |
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Re: 300ZX Drifting Downfalls?
truth is who knows???
nothing is problem for it. It can all be modified. Weight, blah. steering angle, blah. Hicas, blah. A sponsored drift team can take car of all of that if they wanted to. But that is a good realization, i never really noticed that they're never used. There kind of the underdog(in popularity) in alot of stuff arnt they. |
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Re: Re: Re: 300ZX Drifting Downfalls?
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Re: Re: Re: Re: 300ZX Drifting Downfalls?
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Re: 300ZX Drifting Downfalls?
it maybe out of there price range, but thats irrelavent. Because even the sponsored teams dont use them. I dont think anyone is really talking about the average joe who owns a 300zx anyway. I think the main point is that not even sponsored teams use them either. There must be a reason??
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Because as stated:
It was specifically designed to keep both front and rear tires going in more or less the same direction. Other cars weren't. Other cars have greater status among fans. Other cars have greater status for being easier to drift, the first to be drifted, etc and so on. If you are looking for something along the lines of: "The 300ZXs tie rod is of insufficent length to drift." then you will be coming up empty handed.
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Re: 300ZX Drifting Downfalls?
Basically, it's "who the fuck cares."
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Re: 300ZX Drifting Downfalls?
Z32 and a 240sx?
let's say you did a sr swap and the same amount of weight reduction to both cars.... 240sx would still be superior... cost, wheelbase, weight, etc... plus the Z32 is shorter and wider compared to the 240... hence, hard to control drifts and less maneuverability.
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