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07-21-2010, 09:07 AM | #391 | |
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Re: Junkies 97 RS Rebuild(1st timer!)
You cant get rid of it. Like I said it has to do with the disc you put in is not absorbing the gear noise from the tranny. Its not a big deal, its something you have to deal with when making real power. If you have adjustable cam gears use those to correct timing. If its only off a tooth it wont hurt anything. I drove my car for 1k miles with the timing off before I even knew it. A compression test keyed me in to the timing being off.
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98 Eclipse GS Turbo Megasquirt 2 - Holset HY35 Turbo - Built motor - P&P Head and Intake - 3" Turbo back - FMIC - Greddy RZ BOV - Walbro 255 - Aeromotive AFPR - 650cc Injectors - Fidanza Flywheel - Zoom clutch - 13" Cobra Front Brakes - AEM WB - Devilsown meth injection - 3.55 Final Drive gear ratio 1981 Chevy Scottsdale 1987 Nissan 300zx - Chump Car 2001 BMW 325i - DD |
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07-21-2010, 09:39 AM | #392 | |
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Re: Junkies 97 RS Rebuild(1st timer!)
I'm working on the final wiring for your car dude. I'll have it to you sometime this week. 97s have weird pin layouts.
Cams are non-adjustable. Would have done that when I was there. I think it may be off a little more than just 1 tooth, or at least on both cams. One tooth will make the car run bad, but yours really wasn't holding idle too well. Compression test or do the straw test. Wish I had more time out there to do that.
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07-21-2010, 03:29 PM | #393 | |
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Re: Junkies 97 RS Rebuild(1st timer!)
ha the straw test. Guess my method is now famous. That really isin't going to tell you much just that the cams are or aren't 180 off. You probably wont be able to tell if its a tooth off or not
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07-22-2010, 01:43 AM | #394 | |
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Re: Junkies 97 RS Rebuild(1st timer!)
Ok thanks....started sodering in the wires tonight for the ms harness. Gonna just leave the 2 fuel inj wires loose and let the tuners do whatever they have to do with it. But I will go ahead and do the rest and also install all the gauges b4 I turn it over to them. It sucks that I have to set the timing and if I didn't do it right the first time then it's guesswork at this point...lol. easiest way is to just unbolt the tensioner and compress it again right? Good opportunity to replace it... is there a trick to setting it just right? Besides lining the marks up?Obviously that didn't work out too well for me lol. And as for the clutch, why would it not make the noise b4 my build...like at all....ran completely quiet. and now after my build its noisy at idle...this is bugging me to death....makes me kind of angry that I pulled the trans off to fix it but that didnt do anything...I know for a fact the tob went back on the clutch fork and everything went back in perfectly. The trans lined up with the motor perfectly. .........=/
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07-22-2010, 09:23 AM | #395 | |
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Re: Junkies 97 RS Rebuild(1st timer!)
Tensioner does have to come off. I have my used tensioner (about 5,000 miles on it) that you can have if you want. It's like new.
Something I do when timing is I look at the head totally flat and make sure the lopes on the cams that are facing up and straight up. I'll use a flat edge to check that. Maybe pull the valve cover and look when motor is TDC to see if the lopes facing up are 100% up. I forget which cylinders at TDC are facing straight up, but can get that info if you need. Would tell if the cams are installed right. I'm home tonight after a work BBQ so I'll finsh up the wiring diagram. I'll send it over when done.
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07-31-2010, 03:17 PM | #396 | |
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Re: Junkies 97 RS Rebuild(1st timer!)
Took the car to Epic Motorsports here in NC...they told me they would begin working in it Monday, and I should have it back by the end of next week so...not too bad...just excited to finally start driving it again(been driving a crown vic!!!)
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07-31-2010, 04:41 PM | #397 | |
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Re: Junkies 97 RS Rebuild(1st timer!)
Is the motor broken in all the way? Hope they get it running good for you. How much boost you going to be pushing?
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08-01-2010, 08:53 PM | #398 | |
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Re: Junkies 97 RS Rebuild(1st timer!)
No it's not broken in but they aren't tuning it yet, just a few odds and inns like getting my air fuel gauge to function properly lol. I gave up on that one. As for boost, it ran between 19-20 b4 my build so...someday maybe a little more than that?
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08-18-2010, 12:08 AM | #399 | |
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Re: Junkies 97 RS Rebuild(1st timer!)
Ok, update time.
Got a call from the shop working on my car. The news is as follows: They got my air/fuel gauge working(I couldnt seem to get it to function correctly like the rest of the gauges). The timing was off just slightly, so they are gonna set that. And for the grand finale, the mysterious noise which has been coming from my transmission has been found! Apparently, on the other end of the imput shaft which is inside the trans, that you cant see, has a part on it that somehow got damaged or bent, from what I could tell that the guy was telling me. I can't remember if he said it was a pulley or something, whatver it is, they are gonna replace it. I deduced that its more than likely from me trying to get the motor back in after the build, when I knew I was putting stress on the shaft...like I had this feeling I was doing it...that must be it. So thats where it stands. Then when Dave breezes thru good ol' NC again i'm gonna call snatches on some talon parts
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