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07-13-2005, 08:29 AM | #1 | |
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General Motors Defect Welding Recall ?
Under normal accident free usage, under normal climate, welds should last a very long time.
My 2001 Chevrolet Impala has defective welds. General Motors toll free customer service 866-942-4368 failed to provide cost assistance to repair the welding. The poor welding is a common problem with Impala's and Monte Carlo with some verticle sub frame welds missing from assembly. Impala is frequently used by police, and as the police tend to build up the miles on these cars, the defective welding may be leading to many of the reported control loss accidents by police Impala 's. The sub frame weld problem is frequently mis diagnosed as intermediate steering shaft problems, as both problems cause noise when turning the steering wheel. I am very sad that an american car builder such as general motors would allow missing welds and poor quality welding. If you hear of any GM control loss accidents, remember this posting. Hold general motors responsible in control loss accidents of Impala and Monte Carlo. |
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07-14-2005, 08:51 PM | #2 | ||
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The police don't use Impala's nearly as much as Chevrolet would like, just from the fact they arn't Crown Vic's. All cars have their problems in police duty. Crown Vic's were likely to burst into flames if their cruisers were struck in the rear. Point being, all cars have flaws, GM has fixed it on the newer Impala's. What amazes me, after a company refused to fix something to your liking, you hold onto this car, saying how its a possible death trap, ranting on and on about how bad GM is for not fixing it. Millions of customers will keep buying their products. As much as I hate to, think of that quote from fight club about car recalls. |
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07-14-2005, 09:28 PM | #3 | |
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gm has no control. they out source almost every thing. i work at a plant that assembles the drive train to the cradle for the equinoxs and we've had tie rod ends come with no grease in the ball joints and our Q.A s pass it (quality Assurance). they say we dont put the grease in the ball joints so if they arn't ripped open its not our fault if the is no grease in them. thats what a warrenty is for. bull sh#T!..
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07-15-2005, 09:12 AM | #4 | ||
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Is that the fight club quote you speak of? I await the service managers return from vacation to seek cost assistance toward the labor of the weld fix. When the weld kit super-glue is applied {thats a GM authorized repair!!} I will dump this Impala and look at the Kia Sorrento and Chrysler Pacifica. |
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07-15-2005, 02:35 PM | #5 | ||
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Have fun with the new, non-GM vehicle. Kia's have good warrenties, and Chrysler couldn't have gotten worse after joining with Diamler. |
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07-18-2005, 03:07 AM | #6 | ||
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07-18-2005, 12:55 PM | #8 | ||
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You may have been upset with the situation while they were explaining the problem to you and not taken the time to fully understand what they meant. Or you could have understood completely and known that they weren't going to use glue, but used to your advantage on this forum what the mechanic said. Being vague is a great way to incite misunderstanding and cause a "snowball effect" where a small misunderstanding contributes logarithmically to greater misunderstanding based on assumptions. Either way, I'm sure that GM will not send you on your merry little way without knowing you are safe. Good luck with a Kia or a Dodge. |
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Dave, Dave, Dave, I feel your pain. BUT you gotta understand you pay what you way. I've already gone thru that bullsh*t. I've probably spent 6-8 grand on a new engine, transmission, and anything else you can think of. but chevy understands if you buy an impala, you have the money to fix it or else you would of bought a cavalier or an aveo. kia has those bumper to bumper warranties cause they know the people that buy those cars barely have enough money to put clothes on their back.
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For another perspective on what car companies know about the reliability of cars, see this web site http://www.kiamotors.com/Common/html...service01.html where Kia says: "Approximately 40% of the total cost of ownership for a new car goes toward maintenance and after sales service - almost as much as the cost of buying the car in the first place." They aren't just talking about GM here; they know they'll make money after the sale, even if you pay cash for the car. |
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GM replaced the steering shaft cradle, which were missing welds, as well as the intermediate shaft on my 2000LS with no questions asked a few years back.
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07-23-2005, 09:59 PM | #14 | ||
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NO CONTROL OF QUALITY AT GENERAL MOTORS!!!! I hear their next incentive to boost sales will be BUY 1 IMPALA GET 2 FREE!!! This will be very profitable for GM due to the extreme amount of repair and faulty parts needed to drive a piece of crap impala. |
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