A few noble questions

[Mr.INSANE]

Well as you see im a newb I have a few questions regarding the z series and such so you hang with me and hold back your flame urges.

First off The 280z Whats its 0 - 60 time stock
How does it handle
What kind of engines can it hold ala skyline celica etc etc
Is there much room for handling improvements
How is the shifitng does it tend to buck alot or is it very smooth

After that I have a rather odd question
Now i have a racing game {who doesnt} as you might know if it its called forza motorsport well there happens to be a care called the 240zx made by nissan but has a datsun signal near the back. Its not like any other z mainly the only real difference i can spot is the mirros are about halfway up the front ala kinda like some older cars. i can get pictures if needed but does this car exist or it just some mistake by the forza team

[xXxRocker5150]

the 240sx does exist.... the 1st version of the z cars was the 240z than the 260z than the 280zx and finally the 300zx... as far as the tranny shifting... it depends on the previous owner and as to whether or not they abused it...

the engine in stock form isn't that fast, but it has alot of potential...

if I were you I'd get a 240z or a 260z, and do an engine/tranny swap... you'd have one hell of a beast...

ohh and btw all Nissans before 1984 were called Datsuns

[Mr.INSANE]

Thanks alot for the info. But why isnt the 280z as good as the others? can it not hold as many engine types as others. Lastly you misread it the car is called the 240 zx not sx

[DeleriousZ]

the x in zx wasn't introduced until 81 when they made the 280zx

if you're going with a 240-280z, you'll probably want to swap in a 5 speed from a 280zx as all of the previous z's (i believe) came with 4 speed manual tranny's

the mirror's could be a styling thing, i've seen a few with them on... however i'm sure there were a few specialy z's all along the line that nissan made purely for racing etc.

the 280z is heavier than the earlier models.. more luxury items etc... the 70-72 240z's are the lightest

[Mr.INSANE]

Thanks If you would like i can get a screenshot of the mysterious car

[probehtr300]

its ok we know what it is, ive seen it when my friend was playing the game and its a mystype. They meant to say 240Z, not 240zx. and yes some of the earlier 240z's came with the mirrors halfway up the front fender.

[xXxRocker5150]

the reason I wouldn't get a 280zx is becuase I heard that straight from the factory they were lemons... I'd get a 240 or 260, but that's just my .02

[Mr.INSANE]

thanks anyways

so putting in a tt skyline engine? how much would this cost and is it easy

[k3smostwanted]

Originally Posted by Mr.INSANE

thanks anyways

so putting in a tt skyline engine? how much would this cost and is it easy

not easy and expensive.

lots of fabrication as in motor mounts, tranny mount, shifter linkages, wiring, driveshaft etc.

not to mention the motor with a GT-S tranny will run you closer to $5k probably. plus you will need the ECU, wiring harness, etc.

dont forget you will probably need to swap in a stronger diff and a better suspension.

if a skyline motor is really an interested...i would look more at the RB25DET or RB20DET. very strong motors and capable of anything you can throw at it.

[Mr.INSANE]

Hmm How about a celica motor or something a tad less expensive

how fast can you get a 240 or 260 without adding a new engine

btw i am planning on buying a 240 if you wonder why im asking these i just want the car to be good

[xXxRocker5150]

well with any amount of money, you can make any car fast... as for the stock engine, I wouldn't stick with it.

please DONT DONT put a celica engine in that beautiful car...

you can put in a nice VG engine, or even a v8... if it were me, I'd prolly swap in a 240sx KA engine, and mod from there.... or a vg33DET and go from there... but that's just me

[DeleriousZ]

a celica motor in a z would go 0 mph because you would have a hail of angry z enthusiasts coming down on you for putting a toyota engine into a nissan classic.... you'd be better off finding another small sized engine, nissan's ca18det comes to mind, along with the much more expensive sr20det... both are turbocharged 4 bangers, both have the same overall potential to a point.. but the ca18det is about half the price of the sr20det because the sr has become so popular..

sticking with the n/a inline 6 won't get you much faster, but dropping in an L28ET from a 280zx will give you a nice bump in power and an excellent platform to start modifying... that and they're Incredibly cheap...

you could also consider a v8 swap, but that guzzles gas and is generally frowned on by true nissan enthusiasts (unless it's a nissan v8 of course) but the folks over at hybridz.org will tell you it's the thing to do..

[Mr.INSANE]

Hmm So any good sites for car engines besides ebay

Well look right now im looking at something its reasonably easy is not to expensive and gives me a good bump in power

Oh sorry about the celica thing i jsut got up

[stephenp]

no put an old block (ie 1979 and older 280, as for thicker rings than the newer) throw on a 81 to 83 turbo head(, with porting polishing and slight chamber adjustment) and put a 2 mm head gasket on it and run a huge turbo and huge injectors and youll be old school with about 400+ bhp

[k3smostwanted]

Originally Posted by stephenp

no put an old block (ie 1979 and older 280, as for thicker rings than the newer) throw on a 81 to 83 turbo head(, with porting polishing and slight chamber adjustment) and put a 2 mm head gasket on it and run a huge turbo and huge injectors and youll be old school with about 400+ bhp

we generally dont listen to mr. stephenp because his ideas are pretty off the wall most of the time as you can see. whether they work or not...he is one crazy kid that likes to work on cars wayyy too much.

anyways, if i had to choose a motor to swap in a 240Z it would be a RB20DET. better power band than the SR or CA because it is an inline 6. offers about the same power as the SR with the same modibility capabilities if not better. its cheaper than the SR and about the same cost as the CA. it is a relatively easy swap for the 240Z because it is a rear sump motor which means you will not have to switch over oil pans or any of that jazz. its capable of 400+rwhp on stock internals and comes from arguably one of the strongest series of motors put into Japanese cars.

my thoughts...