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07-30-2005, 01:14 AM | #46 | |||
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that green car he posted...i specifically remembe him posting that picture before saying it was some buddy of his's car. now he claims it his own...i will try to find the thread if you would like but i feel that he has already been proven not credible. EDIT: i did some searchign because i remember him saying several times he was going to give all of us some proof of his statements. which would dispose of the thought that he doesnt care what we think... http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbul...3&postcount=13 there is a post by him...if you see where it says "Broke..." http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbul...7&postcount=14 there is another statement by him saying he was going to give us some proof. once again, we ave seen nothing of the sort. he also claimed he was building a 350Z to run 300mph on teh salt flats. we will ahve to keep our eyes peeled open for a red 350z with a VH45DETT running 300mph. i will dig up some better stuff later...because he did indeed tell us what class he was going to be running.
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If you are posting a picture as proof of something, why the FUCK would you post anything that could even remotely be argued. All he would have had to do is get even just the headlights in the picture and it would have been concrete. If you were posting a set of pictures as proof WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU PUT A PICTURE OFF EBAY IN THEM? He has done NOTHING to prove ANYTHING he has done is true and if anything he has done more to prove himself wrong. Quote:
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its poetry...he is a friggin poet.
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07-30-2005, 12:26 PM | #49 | |
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... I love you Broke
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hey, wasnt there supposed to be either some car or VH kit or something that a company was supposed to name after Al ??? LOL
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and he registered well over a year ago. He's also put in when he flew and what squadron (??) he was in. Now I'm not saying that this is anywhere remotely near proof, but it does indicate that if he is indeed lying about this, then he's been doing it for well over a year, far before all this shit on AF started. Anyway, it would likely be pretty easy to check if he was in 'Flight 207' if you knew where to look. Unfortunately I don't know where to look and I don't really have the motivation either. I'm not his defence lawyer here. Quote:
Well actually, ihe states that the feds released him and he was advised to leave the country by his attorney. He would be tried for treason if he released any information, which would indicate that as long as he doesn't then he should be alright. Thats how I took it. Quote:
I think we could all probably give that filing system a go for this whole Zgringo issue. No disrespect for the man but I think we're all getting a little worked up over one particular user of the forum here. Quote:
Personally, I do believe Zgringo, at least to the extent of him owning at least one vh45de powered 300zx. His knowledge of these engines are unmatched on almost all forums on the internet. I've learnt quite a bit from old man Al, and for that I thank him. As for non z related claims, I couldn't give a flying fuck if he lies about anything in particular because it doesn't affect my life anyway. I'm not going to make any life decisions based solely on what he says so to me, it doesn't really matter if he's lying. He could tell me that he's the Mayor of bumfuck, Egypt if he wanted and it would still be as inconsequential as if he flew in the Korean war or not. All I care about is getting good knowledge on the 300zx, and Al has done that. I do understand that this discussion is on whether or not he was telling the truth, not the worth of the truth, but this is why I don't really have an opinion on everything else he says. It doesn't matter to me so I couldn't be arsed trying to prove/disprove what he says. Anyway, i think things are getting a little too hostile on here for such a normally peaceful forum, so lets all drop it, have a beer or two and get on with discussion of past Z cars. -Mike PS. I can't believe no one has used this smiley yet: |
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... Meh, I really should close the thread. But, it's like a Soap Opera, I want to see what happens next
Seriously though, let's keep it civil... Otherwise, the thread WILL be closed. -Wes
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We should probably have put this into another thread from the beginning. Poor 'Turbo711' just wanted an answer to a harmless question and we've all pushed this shit onto him. On the behalf of all participants in this discussion, I apologise Turbo711 for completely destroying your thread. -Mike |
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it doesnt take a Z32 owner to see that the engine bays are different. to make life simpler i will post 3 picture. one of a Z32 engine bay, one of a Q45 engine bay, and the picture of "Al's Supercharged VH powered Z32" you shoulnt even really have to look at it for more than a couple seconds to see what is going on here. so obviously he has lied about this forums contents and that would be 300zx's. so MikeMan, according to your own statements, you should care that he has tried lying to us all. i dont really find it a big deal because he has ran away from this forum just like every other forum that has disproved his claims for the past 2 years. if he were to come back, i still wouldnt have a problem as long as he posted an apology and a reason behind his actions, and the real truth of "Al". i would love to hear his true story...whether he is an overly ambitious and smart 14 year old kid to a 70 year old man that has an obsession with playing games with people. anyways, on to the pictures... First Up: (90-96) 300ZX engine bay and cowl Second we will look at a Q45 engine bay: Third: Al's VH45DE w/ supercharger in a 300ZX? Just comare the cowls and where the wipers meet. It is obvious and self-explanitory.
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Then on here he posts a picture of the engine but says nothing about ebay. Instantly you all assume he's talking shit because its an ebay picture. You're all jumping the gun without actually considering another side to the story. Quote:
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Besides, I did try searching on google to find USAF records but after a few searches i gave up. Of course, you'd probably take that to mean that the USAF never existed. Quote:
For most of the things I'm not even saying i believe one way or another, but I'm opening up the topic for further analysis. I'm not doing it for the sake of being argumentative, I'm doing it because its the fair and proper thing to do. Mate, if you want to go around taking pot shots at people then thats you're choice, but for the sake of a 'fair trial' I'm going to look at all sides of the argument. Also, just because I don't specifically state that i acknowledge your evidence (even though I actually did regarding the q45 engine bay pic), doesn't mean i don't accept it. You raise very good points and it does seem very suspicious when they're all combined. However, looking at each piece of evidence on a case by case basis, I can think of other reasons why it may appear the way it does. In the cases that I can't, I concede, yet you don't seem to take too kindly to me doing that. Quote:
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Now I've just spent a good 30 minutes on this post, which is far more than what i was really prepared to commit to this worthless pissing contest and I'm going to bed. -Mike EDIT: Wes, let me know if you want me to clean this post up a bit. I think I got a bit overzealous with my use of expletives. |
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To repeat what has been said: Welcome to the internet, if you are not bringing anything credible to the table, don't expect anyone to believe you. It's just like a bar. If you claim to piss 20 yards be prepared to head into the back alley or be prepared to accept that no one is going to listen. Anyway: It has been shown that Zgringo has lied. To narrow it down to one irrefutable lie, he posted a picture that was not what he claimed it was. All else he has claimed to do is in question through both evidence to the contrary and lack of supporting evidence where there should have been. If it can be agreed that above statement has been sufficiently represented and that it is now on Zgringo to bring in something credible to take this any farther in any meaningful direction, I'll leave it at that. As a footnote, by my count of all participants there has been one blatant insult and many veiled ones amid a bunch of cocksmokery and some legitimate truth finding efforts. If that isn't civilized enough for an online forum, I would implore the judge and jury of such things to take a trip to the Honda section to put things in perspective.
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and everyone knows a vh45de(tt) in a z32 looks something like this:
www.freewebs.com/axepower/ maybe we'll post some new pics and vids one day soon...i encourage you guys who are considering the swap to go for it.forget this jibber jabber,and build a 450zx.or obtain the titan motor and pull your v6.if you are serious,and you get to that point,gimme a call.(678)698-7426. 450zxtt vh45dett power,baby. |
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07-31-2005, 01:28 PM | #59 | |
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jesus, that's not intimidating or anything... "yeah the engine was too big so we had to cut a hole in the hood.... but it doesn't go very fast " anyone with half a brain would never take a second thought of racing that thing, if they even had a first thought about it.... that's one impressive machine
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