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Old 07-24-2005, 05:07 AM   #106
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Re: Too early for GT500 vs '07 Skyline GTR?

err...ok, yea i said ok
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Old 07-24-2005, 04:11 PM   #107
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Re: Re: Too early for GT500 vs '07 Skyline GTR?

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what i got from the last... oh say... 3 pages?


ok?
yea, ok!
er... ok...?
OK, DUH!!
oh yea, ok!
wait... what?
ok!
ok ok...
wait, you didnt say ok?
yes i did, ok?
oh, ok!

i think you've laid the issue to rest.

shopping cart < regular mustang < GT500 < Z06 ?~? GT-R
and by this post...you are not helping matters.
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Old 07-24-2005, 08:40 PM   #108
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Re: Re: Too early for GT500 vs '07 Skyline GTR?

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what i got from the last... oh say... 3 pages?


ok?
yea, ok!
er... ok...?
OK, DUH!!
oh yea, ok!
wait... what?
ok!
ok ok...
wait, you didnt say ok?
yes i did, ok?
oh, ok!

i think you've laid the issue to rest.

shopping cart < regular mustang < GT500 < Z06 ?~? GT-R
haha, you said "ok" lots of times.







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Old 07-24-2005, 09:15 PM   #109
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jimster, are you just looking at random things and saying you love them?
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Old 07-24-2005, 11:33 PM   #110
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Re: Too early for GT500 vs '07 Skyline GTR?

What did I get from pik d's post? Shopping carts own Neons...
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Old 07-26-2005, 11:38 PM   #111
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Woohoo 7 pages FULLY READ!!! I can't possibly not post. Not a bad thread considering it repeated itself, and debated the blatantly obvious facts for 5 pages........... which is the gt500 will handle on the level with the gt-r even given it's breed, and lack of another $30k worth of car . Glad we got this panned out.
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Old 07-29-2005, 04:50 AM   #112
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Re: Too early for GT500 vs '07 Skyline GTR?

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Woohoo 7 pages FULLY READ!!! I can't possibly not post. Not a bad thread considering it repeated itself, and debated the blatantly obvious facts for 5 pages........... which is the gt500 will handle on the level with the gt-r even given it's breed, and lack of another $30k worth of car . Glad we got this panned out.
this is a stupid post with the only result of 4 million reposts of what the entire thread was about...

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americans companies crack me up some times... i think it was chevy buti cant remember.... like a week ago, i saw a commercial for a truck that said "now with THREE VALVES... thats right 3 intead of 2 which means better performance!!!" idk, what the hell they were trying to prove since some japanese cars had 4 vpc in the mid 1980's lol... TWENTYFIVE YEARS LATER..... THREE VALVES!! which is why im still confused as to why even the new corvettes wouldnt have 4

is there an explanation to that
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Old 07-29-2005, 10:04 AM   #113
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Re: Re: Too early for GT500 vs '07 Skyline GTR?

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this is a stupid post with the only result of 4 million reposts of what the entire thread was about...

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americans companies crack me up some times... i think it was chevy buti cant remember.... like a week ago, i saw a commercial for a truck that said "now with THREE VALVES... thats right 3 intead of 2 which means better performance!!!" idk, what the hell they were trying to prove since some japanese cars had 4 vpc in the mid 1980's lol... TWENTYFIVE YEARS LATER..... THREE VALVES!! which is why im still confused as to why even the new corvettes wouldnt have 4

is there an explanation to that
Hell, let's go back further. Jaguar, Aston Martin, Auto Union, Alfa Romeo, Maserati were building DOHC 4 valve per cylinder with twin ignition back in the 40's! However, those were on in-line engines.

With V-shaped engines, there's a stronger case for pushrods than most people realize. Overhead camshafts is a very inefficient use of space and is heavier because the heads have to be bolstered so much more in order to support the camshafts. With a pushrod design, it's more complicated to get 3 or 4 valves per cylinder and it's also not a big issue because v8's displace enough that it's easy get tremendous power with 2 valves. Why spend the extra money if it isn't necessary? Pushrods may add reciprocating mass, but they're still perfectly capable of revving 8000rpm+.
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Old 07-29-2005, 03:16 PM   #114
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Re: Re: Too early for GT500 vs '07 Skyline GTR?

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this is a stupid post with the only result of 4 million reposts of what the entire thread was about...

smelly pirate hooker

americans companies crack me up some times... i think it was chevy buti cant remember.... like a week ago, i saw a commercial for a truck that said "now with THREE VALVES... thats right 3 intead of 2 which means better performance!!!" idk, what the hell they were trying to prove since some japanese cars had 4 vpc in the mid 1980's lol... TWENTYFIVE YEARS LATER..... THREE VALVES!! which is why im still confused as to why even the new corvettes wouldnt have 4

is there an explanation to that
Actually that was ford that had that commercial. They do have 4 valve engines and have had them for some time. I think it is impressive that their base line V8 has 3 valves per cylinder. The same argument could be made that japanese are just now making V8s. Nobody cares though, just as nobody cares about how many valves you have. There is more than one way to skin a cat. Look at the new vette, 500 hp pushrod 2valve motor.
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Old 07-29-2005, 03:37 PM   #115
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i know that ford has cars with 4 valves per cylinder, but the corvette designed to be chevys top sports car, i would think they would have it... and i guess 9ball explained it "Why spend the extra money if it isn't necessary?" its known for the best bang for you buck.. i just think it could be better idk
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Old 07-29-2005, 05:15 PM   #116
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Re: Too early for GT500 vs '07 Skyline GTR?

and obviously you don't know how valves and number of valves affect engine performance.
having more valves doesn't mean anything.
i.e having a 5 valve four pot isn't going to automatically make it a better engine than a four valve one.
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Old 07-29-2005, 05:29 PM   #117
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Re: Too early for GT500 vs '07 Skyline GTR?

Read this I posted this thread in the beginning of the summer. http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbul...d.php?t=409529
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Old 07-29-2005, 08:42 PM   #118
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Re: Re: Too early for GT500 vs '07 Skyline GTR?

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this is a stupid post with the only result of 4 million reposts of what the entire thread was about...

smelly pirate hooker

americans companies crack me up some times... i think it was chevy buti cant remember.... like a week ago, i saw a commercial for a truck that said "now with THREE VALVES... thats right 3 intead of 2 which means better performance!!!" idk, what the hell they were trying to prove since some japanese cars had 4 vpc in the mid 1980's lol... TWENTYFIVE YEARS LATER..... THREE VALVES!! which is why im still confused as to why even the new corvettes wouldnt have 4

is there an explanation to that
The 1990 Corvette ZR-1 had a DOHC 32 valve V-8.

The official time for the new Corvette Z06 at the Nurburgring, arguably the toughest track in the world, is 7:43. The new Z06 gets 26 mpg on the highway.

http://www.nuerburgring.de/

New Corvette Z06

The Panoz Esperante has a Ford SVT 4.6 liter 420 hp DOHC 32 valve V-8.

The Saleen S7R doesn't have four valves per cylinder, but unlike most supercars it has already proven itself with nearly 40 races around the world.
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Old 07-30-2005, 01:57 AM   #119
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the hemispherical engine is still one of the most if not the most efficient motor ever built. it isnt a 4 valve per cylinder...

if american companies can make an engine and still have it compete and beat the competition then there is nothing to even complain about. who gives a f***...a corvette is pushing 500hp, you cant argue with numbers.
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Old 07-30-2005, 02:04 AM   #120
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Re: Re: Too early for GT500 vs '07 Skyline GTR?

[quote=ghetto7o2azn]this is a stupid post with the only result of 4 million reposts of what the entire thread was about...

smelly pirate hooker

americans companies crack me up some times... i think it was chevy buti cant remember.... like a week ago, i saw a commercial for a truck that said "now with THREE VALVES... thats right 3 intead of 2 which means better performance!!!" idk, what the hell they were trying to prove since some japanese cars had 4 vpc in the mid 1980's lol... TWENTYFIVE YEARS LATER..... THREE VALVES!! which is why im still confused as to why even the new corvettes wouldnt have 4

is there an explanation to that [/QUOTE

Mercedes has used the 3 valves ohc design for a long time and has had great success with it, and chevy did build the zr1 which was an ohc 350, proved to be pointless, they couldve made the same power with a pushrod with way less complication, less money and work.. plus havin the over head cams took away from the well known "workability" in other words easyness to work on which is what has made the 350 such a popular engine. on top of all that ford has a new crate which is a 5.0 dohc (Cammer) out of the box 440 hp and capable of alot more. the prob is the engines first off arent cost effective and alot of people dont feel the over head cams warrant the cost... so havin a 3 valve as a base engine is pretty decent.
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