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Old 11-09-2002, 04:48 PM   #181
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Re: Re: Re: Re: what?

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Since when has "qualified" been a prerequisite for stating ones opinion
Anyone is free to state thier opinion.
But an opinion is not a factual statement.

Im quite free to state my opinion on how to remove a brian tumor, but would you want to take it as advice?
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Old 11-24-2002, 09:35 AM   #182
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if a muscule car is a heavy american car with lots of horse power well than you can say the U.S. still makes some. think of the new mercury(4000+ lbs) , impala ss (around 4000) , lincoln mark VIII (3900lbs).
I own a mark VIII and now it hase the same 4.6 twin cam as the mustang cobra. I have frends that only have $200 super chips in theres and get 14.4 in the1/4 and still can get 25 mpg. plus the factory and many mags clame .86-.87g's with its stock full indipendant suspension.
with out any mods im sure these cars would compare nicely with the old muscule and I know the can saprise most imports.so you can say muscule cars have come a long way.
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Old 11-24-2002, 04:05 PM   #183
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For me, I LOVE the old Mopar musclecars, and I will own a Plymouth Barracuda one day. But it won't be a daily driver. In my own experience, the imports I have owned or had experience with were of vastly higher quality, reliability, and longevity than the domestics I've owned or had experience with. For a daily driver, that's important. I had a Honda, it was stock and older and SLOW, but reliable and economical. Good college car. I don't like the new Honda VTECs because I don't like to have to wind the crap out of my engine to get anything out of it. My personal preference is TORQUE, the lower the better, but a light, tight-handling car is also important to me. That and reliability and economy eliminates the Mustangs, Camaros, etc. The only Camaro I drove which handled really well was an 88 2.8, and it was a POS as far as quality. So I guess I wanted a high-quality Japanese car, that got acceptable mileage, handled well, and had decent low-end torque, and I could afford.

So I've found my own personal happy medium, though it wasn't easy to find, they are quite rare and I got hella-lucky to find one in my area. My 88 Nissan 200SX SE has the 3-liter out of the 300ZX, with better low-end torque than any 4-banger, but is lighter than the Z, is very reliable, gets mid-20's to the gallon (pushes 30 mpg on the highway). I think I'll keep it forever. As long as I don't take it up North to often, so it doesn't rust.

I think that everybody has to decide what properties of a car are important to them personally.
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Old 11-24-2002, 06:38 PM   #184
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that's whack, civics are slow. i'm sorry but if you notice, when you look at mostly any "kill list" forum, they all say "too many civics to count." why, you ask? because they are like practice on the novice corse for street racing. all that aside, doesn't mercedes make the V-12 for the mclaren?
i think the V12 in the mclaren is from bmw.:bandit:
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Old 11-24-2002, 06:42 PM   #185
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i think the V12 in the mclaren is from bmw.:bandit:

It is. :smoka:
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Unless you put money into a Honda it will not beat a stock muscle car.And who cars about gas.It you have the money to buy a V8 then you can afford the gas.
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Unless you put money into a Honda it will not beat a stock muscle car.
Define a stock muscle car?
There are plenty of "muscle" cars my Civic will beat in both a straight line and around corners.
There more that it wont of course.
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Old 12-15-2002, 05:08 AM   #188
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Unless you put money into a Honda it will not beat a stock muscle car.And who cars about gas.It you have the money to buy a V8 then you can afford the gas.
A stock muscle car is more expensive in most case's to begin with. Modifying a cheaper car (in this case a honda) will prove to be more cost efficent. I do enjoy the hum of a V8, but i've grown quite acustom to the sound of a well tuned B18. (this is my car of choice) Other ppl may choose a muscle car, it vary's according to the preference of the individual. For instance I've found that a shorter stroke and a higher revolution serves my need for speed quite nicely. (4 grand 4gen CRX)
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You know what a muscle car is...a Vette,Trans Am,Mustang,Hemis,etc.You Honda can beat those?Highly doubt it.a stock Honda will not beat a stock muscle car.I just hate it so much when people say stupid things like "my stock Honda Civic can beat your Vette anyday man."
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True muscle cars are more expensive to start out with in general, but one you try to build a civic up to the speed and ability of the muscle car, you have just destroyed the driveability part it had over the muscle, and spent just as much if not more.

I have nothing against people building up civics and integras, but i don't think its fair to say "well, its better to mod an import than a domestic b/c you get more return". Guy around here has an internally stock '00 Z28 with a supercharger (running 8 or 9 pounds, can't remember) and dyno's 544rwhp. Either can be built to be fast, its where your tastes and abilities lie.
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Imports ownz joo bonez.
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Ya imports own...especially jetta's. Oh ya, i raced my friend's mod'd jetta a few months ago (i forgot what he has, but he has put some good money into it), and i can only count the space between us in buses. It wasn't from a stop (my torque would have given me an advantage there), it was from a roll so its not like there was much driver skill involved.
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True muscle cars are more expensive to start out with in general, but one you try to build a civic up to the speed and ability of the muscle car, you have just destroyed the driveability part it had over the muscle, and spent just as much if not more.

If the stock muscle cost more that still don't matter.If some stupid 17 year old thinks that there Civic can beat a Trans Am,so be it.let them get beat.If you race a Civic with 10 grand in mods against a Trans Am,though the same amount of money was put into both,its still not a fair race.Know what Im saying?If you put 10 grand into both,then its a fair race,even though the Civic would be smoked,its still fair.
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You know what a muscle car is...a Vette,Trans Am,Mustang,Hemis,etc.You Honda can beat those?Highly doubt it.
yes it can. How far do you live from williamsport?
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No they can't.Williamsport where?
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