Blown V10

[lewkskywalker]

What would happen if you put a blower (supercharger) on a Viper GTS?

[Scott 02]

Increased Horse Power if you add a supercharger. I know you can add a Turbocharger on it as well.

[Viper 10]

Originally posted by lewkskywalker
What would happen if you put a blower (supercharger) on a Viper GTS?

There are only a bunch of tuners who already do it...

- Doug Levin
- Sean Roe
- Jason Tarnutzer
- Jason Heffner
- Dan Cragin

Almost all of them lack intercoolers, which means they are typically set up for 1/4 mile racing. many also are running big shots of NOS.

The problem that none of these tuners realize is that the HP and torque generated by these engine exceeds the chassis and suspension spec's of the car. On top of that, the transmission and differential are only rated up to a maximum of 600 hp. The rear suspension doesn't transfer weight well, because it is set up for road racing and keeping the car flat in high speed turns. Thiese issues also apply to the twin turbo cars.

The bottom line is that these cars have some serious traction issues, and are pretty disappointing. There is a 1,000 rwhp blown and NOS RT/10 that can barely break 10 secounds... that about says it all. There are better ways to make the Viper go, and HP/torque are the least of the worries.

That's my $.02.

Brad

[TexasVipers]

Originally posted by Viper 10


Almost all of them lack intercoolers, which means they are typically set up for 1/4 mile racing. many also are running big shots of NOS

The Vipers dont lack intercoolers, they dont need them to make high horsepower. Vipers can make enormous power without them. Also Hennessey and Levin have intercooled Vipers.

Originally posted by Viper 10
The problem that none of these tuners realize is that the HP and torque generated by these engine exceeds the chassis and suspension spec's of the car. On top of that, the transmission and differential are only rated up to a maximum of 600 hp. The rear suspension doesn't transfer weight well, because it is set up for road racing and keeping the car flat in high speed turns. Thiese issues also apply to the twin turbo cars.

Are you serious? You dont think SVSI, Hennessey, TNT or any other long time Viper tuner who have completely been through the Viper and know every aspect and exact detail of the car dont know what you know about the Vipers chasis and suspension? The Vipers chasis is the same exact chasis (except lightened) used in the racing Vipers (those Vipers have over 700 hp) If you know what you know why dont you go to SVSI, TNT (e.t.c) motorsports and tell them they've been doing everything all wrong for 10 years now and show em how its really done

Originally posted by Viper 10

The bottom line is that these cars have some serious traction issues, and are pretty disappointing. There is a 1,000 rwhp blown and NOS RT/10 that can barely break 10 secounds... that about says it all. There are better ways to make the Viper go, and HP/torque are the least of the worries.
Brad

Second, the Viper is by no means a quarter mile car, if so it would have a beefed up solid rear-end, 4-speed automatic powerglide transmission with a 3500 stall and 4.30 gears. Any Viper tuner will tell you a drag-prepped Mustang with 800 hp will spank a 1000 horse power Viper in the quarter mile, but after the quarter mile the mustang will get stomped, its all what your going for, if you want to drag race your Viper you dont spend 50k on twin turbos, you spend 20k on suspension, driveline, slicks, and lots of nitrous.

[neonrcr95]

you could alaways go with an hrc twin turbo. That will put u up to 750 hp. Pretty nice.

[Viper 10]

Originally posted by TexasVipers
The Vipers dont lack intercoolers, they dont need them to make high horsepower. Vipers can make enormous power without them. Also Hennessey and Levin have intercooled Vipers.

You are obviously a Levin and Hennessey fan, but you also lack the understanding of forced induction and what intercooling does. I am a fan and have met with Doug Levin, and he is a good engine guy. I recommended to Doug to develop an intercooler over 5 years ago.

The fact that you even mention Hennessey tells me that you have no idea what you are talking about. Hennessey is a criminal who steals people's hard earned money. Go back to your magazines...

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Originally posted by Viper 10
The problem that none of these tuners realize is that the HP and torque generated by these engine exceeds the chassis and suspension spec's of the car. On top of that, the transmission and differential are only rated up to a maximum of 600 hp. The rear suspension doesn't transfer weight well, because it is set up for road racing and keeping the car flat in high speed turns. Thiese issues also apply to the twin turbo cars.
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Are you serious? You dont think SVSI, Hennessey, TNT or any other long time Viper tuner who have completely been through the Viper and know every aspect and exact detail of the car dont know what you know about the Vipers chasis and suspension? The Vipers chasis is the same exact chasis (except lightened) used in the racing Vipers (those Vipers have over 700 hp) If you know what you know why dont you go to SVSI, TNT (e.t.c) motorsports and tell them they've been doing everything all wrong for 10 years now and show em how its really done

Once again you are wrong. The chassis on privateer Vipers might be the same, but not on the GTS-R's. oreca makes a fully tubed racing chassis and a full carbon fiber body. The race car is NOT anything like the street car... once again your magazines are getting the best of you. The fact that you sight people like SVSi, TNT and Hennessey tells me that you first of all don't own a Viper and are about as smart as the magazines that you read. If you have any knowledge of these tuners, you would not spout off like you are. I can introduce you to several people who have lost hundreds of thousands of dollars to these thieves.

If you do own a Viper, I invite you to write a blank check to one of these tuners so that they can stretch your sphincter.


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Originally posted by Viper 10

The bottom line is that these cars have some serious traction issues, and are pretty disappointing. There is a 1,000 rwhp blown and NOS RT/10 that can barely break 10 secounds... that about says it all. There are better ways to make the Viper go, and HP/torque are the least of the worries.
Brad
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Second, the Viper is by no means a quarter mile car, if so it would have a beefed up solid rear-end, 4-speed automatic powerglide transmission with a 3500 stall and 4.30 gears. Any Viper tuner will tell you a drag-prepped Mustang with 800 hp will spank a 1000 horse power Viper in the quarter mile, but after the quarter mile the mustang will get stomped, its all what your going for, if you want to drag race your Viper you dont spend 50k on twin turbos, you spend 20k on suspension, driveline, slicks, and lots of nitrous.

Did you actually agree with me (in part)? So which of your wonderful tuners are doing this to Vipers? Absolutely none of them are! By the way, I would not use a powerglide (I would recommend a Lenco) and I would also add a hallibrand quick-change rear suspension unit.

I don't think that you would get ANY Viper tuner to admit that they would be spanked by a Mustang. Keep on reading those magazines and listening to the Dallas and Houston VCA propaganda (if you own a Viper).

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[DeViL]

Have you bought anything for your Viper, or is it still stock?

[TexasVipers]

Originally posted by Viper 10

You are obviously a Levin and Hennessey fan, but you also lack the understanding of forced induction and what intercooling does. I am a fan and have met with Doug Levin, and he is a good engine guy. I recommended to Doug to develop an intercooler over 5 years ago.

Really? Good job that you met Doug, does it have to do anything with the subject? . The point is there is a certain level of horse power that is obtainable with stock parts, alot of the tuners want to stray close to this line so that the upgrading of stronger internals is not necessary, thus not having an intercooler isnt necessary in moderate horsepower applications.

Originally posted by Viper 10

The fact that you even mention Hennessey tells me that you have no idea what you are talking about. Hennessey is a criminal who steals people's hard earned money. Go back to your magazines...

Yes I have heard everything about Henessey time and time again, but once agian you stray off topic, did I say anything about his ethic of business? No. Crook or not he built/builds fantastic vipers, that HAVE intercoolers, which you said none did?.

Originally posted by Viper 10

Once again you are wrong. The chassis on privateer Vipers might be the same, but not on the GTS-R's. oreca makes a fully tubed racing chassis and a full carbon fiber body. The race car is NOT anything like the street car... once again your magazines are getting the best of you. The fact that you sight people like SVSi, TNT and Hennessey tells me that you first of all don't own a Viper and are about as smart as the magazines that you read. If you have any knowledge of these tuners, you would not spout off like you are. I can introduce you to several people who have lost hundreds of thousands of dollars to these thieves.
If you do own a Viper, I invite you to write a blank check to one of these tuners so that they can stretch your sphincter.

Youre going no where with this, the fact is I did read that the Vipers frame was the same as in the racing version, I read this in the Viper magazine that I get quarterly ever since I BOUGHT MY FIRST VIPER.
By the way if you know other people who have gotten ripped off by other tuners than HMS, then why wouldnt you go to Viperclub.org and post them so the Viper community knows this valuable information?

Originally posted by Viper 10

Did you actually agree with me (in part)? So which of your wonderful tuners are doing this to Vipers? Absolutely none of them are! By the way, I would not use a powerglide (I would recommend a Lenco) and I would also add a hallibrand quick-change rear suspension unit.

Really, none of them are? How about you call up SVSI tomorrow and ask them what kind of work they are doing now for quarter mile Viper performance. Whats with the naming better performance products, were you trying to show me you actully know something? I was purely giving example with the parts I listed anyway idiot.

Originally posted by Viper 10

I don't think that you would get ANY Viper tuner to admit that they would be spanked by a Mustang. Keep on reading those magazines and listening to the Dallas and Houston VCA propaganda (if you own a Viper).

Spanked? They probably won't say it in that manner but most big tuners who care about reputation will say that they are 2 diffrent kinds of cars.

By the way you are doubting me if I have a Viper(s)? I cant believe with the intelligence that you've shown above with your points you can be smart enough to afford a Viper, your paragraphs are blotchy and you seemed to misunderstand every topic I had wrote, and just because you have a picture of a Viper in your signature means nothing.

[450HPviper]

Settle Down guys, we all know I know more about vipers then all of you. :huh: They have 8.0l V10 engines, right. Yes, one for me. 87362 to go.

[Scott 02]

we all know I know more about vipers then all of you.

Sounds like a challenge eh stevo

[redrun]

Supercharger in a GTS ACR. Great idea!

[Scott 02]

Supercharger in a GTS ACR. Great idea!

Yes, Alot of people have thought of that.

[v10_viper]

Originally posted by redrun
Supercharger in a GTS ACR. Great idea!

That's quite a nice setup, I prefer SVS's though, they seem to know every aspect of what they're doing.

[V10 MOJO]

heffners are intercooled, DLM are intercooled. both great tuners. Ive personally decided to go with heffner for my snakes upgrade SC package

[450HPviper]

I prefer SVS's though, they seem to know every aspect of what they're doing.

Agreed