M3 vs S2000

240VZA · 10-16-2003, 07:41 PM

for those that have driven both, i'm wondering about your driving satisfaction for each (in a way, i'm also wondering if you would pay the $ difference; shouldn't be a concern for an enthusiast but it is in my case). thanks for your comments and guidance

NISSANSPDR · 10-16-2003, 08:04 PM

The M3 kicks the S2k's butt in everything...but then again...it is almost 20k more...

tegdude · 10-17-2003, 02:04 AM

if your looking for speed and exceleration get a wrx sti be faster than both for a little cheaper than an s2000

S2kStu · 10-27-2003, 11:56 AM

Well, you can't really compare the two can you? The S2000 is a two-seat roadster with a 2.0L inline 4. I BELIEVE the M3 (02+) has a 3.3L pushing 333hp. Mind you, the S2000's engine has the highest output per liter than any other production car in the world. It can run flat 14s in the 1/4 with an N/A 2.0L!!! No other car with that displacement not using forced induction even comes close. M3 is a magnificent car and fast as f***, but comparing these two cars is comparing apples and oranges. How S2000 vs. 350z roadster? That sounds a little better.

S2kStu · 10-27-2003, 11:58 AM

Correction: I said nobody comes close to the N/A 2.0L running flat 14s. Well, I forgot about the Elise.

sry.

NISSANSPDR · 10-27-2003, 02:37 PM

S2000 now runs a 2.2 liter...same HP but a bit more torque...

chicago_guy · 10-27-2003, 06:33 PM

actually ford racing made a focus wit the 2.0 liter pumpin out 304 horses so i think that takes the most hp per liter title for that size..but then again idk if it was evr production..and it was a ford so it realli dusnt count...lol

o yea...in my opnion nothin beats german engineering for evryday sports cars.

hockeygod2787 · 10-27-2003, 10:01 PM

I agree totally
GERMAN CARS ALL THE WAY BABY

S2kStu · 10-28-2003, 10:05 AM

I'd have to disagree on that one. German engineering (especially on an M3) is absolutely beautiful. BUT for practicality issues, mainly money, they are just too expensive to maintain. Not saying they are unreliable, but anyone that knows cars knows that the Honda stamp of approval means cheap parts and an engine that will last a reeeeeeeeeally long time.

my $.02

S2kStu · 10-28-2003, 10:08 AM

[quote=chicago_guy]actually ford racing made a focus wit the 2.0 liter pumpin out 304 horses so i think that takes the most hp per liter title for that size..but then again idk if it was evr production..and it was a ford so it realli dusnt count...lol

Yea, but was that focus using some sort of forced induction?

Kurtdg19 · 10-28-2003, 10:19 AM

Everyone should know by now how reliable a Honda is. Anyways...What exactly are we comparing these two cars in, or is it just an open discussion of anything between the two. I would most definatly think an M3 could take an S2000 given that is has over 100hp on it. I like the S2000's, but were talking about the same M3's they compare with Z06's and such. I don't think the S2000 is quite up to that par, not in my opinion.

Moppie · 10-28-2003, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by S2kStu

Correction: I said nobody comes close to the N/A 2.0L running flat 14s. Well, I forgot about the Elise.

sry.

which runs mid to high 13s depending on model anyway

OoNismoO · 10-28-2003, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by chicago_guy

actually ford racing made a focus wit the 2.0 liter pumpin out 304 horses so i think that takes the most hp per liter title for that size..but then again idk if it was evr production..and it was a ford so it realli dusnt count...lol

o yea...in my opnion nothin beats german engineering for evryday sports cars.

isnt that the ford focus fr200? if it is then its turbocharged.

OoNismoO · 10-28-2003, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 240VZA

for those that have driven both, i'm wondering about your driving satisfaction for each (in a way, i'm also wondering if you would pay the $ difference; shouldn't be a concern for an enthusiast but it is in my case). thanks for your comments and guidance

ok so for driving satisfaction would i pay the difference, no i would not. if money is a concern, than i would definately get the s2000, its like 20 grand less. the s2000 is more of a sports car, its better balanced, lighter, two seats, and you can put the top down. its more nimble, lighter cars get that handling edge, and feel that a heavier car cant get even with suspension tuning. i would get the bmw if i really need the room, and want better acceleration, but the new s2000 with the 2.2 liter shouldnt be that far behind. so id go with the s2000.

Kurtdg19 · 10-28-2003, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by OoNismoO

ok so for driving satisfaction would i pay the difference, no i would not. if money is a concern, than i would definately get the s2000, its like 20 grand less. the s2000 is more of a sports car, its better balanced, lighter, two seats, and you can put the top down. its more nimble, lighter cars get that handling edge, and feel that a heavier car cant get even with suspension tuning. i would get the bmw if i really need the room, and want better acceleration, but the new s2000 with the 2.2 liter shouldnt be that far behind. so id go with the s2000.

brotha, I think the S2000 is worth every penny.

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