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06-14-2012, 12:41 PM | #16 | |
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Re: Severe painting issues, it never ends. Need help
This helps tremendously, thank you. I honestly think the weather is throwing a spoke in my wheel. I think im doing it right but because its drying to fast it looks bad
Ill be back on it tonight and ket everyone know. Thanks alot for your help Last question. Should i apply decals over basecoat or over clearcoat and then re clear? |
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Always apply some clear coat before you fit the decals. You can sometimes get by without doing this but the clear will seal the basecoat paint and stop anything marking it (decal glue, setting solutions etc) it's just a wise step to do and the decals will snuggle down much better onto a cleared surface as it's smoother than an un-cleared surface. A smooth surface will prevent any silvering under the carrier film of your decals. after the decals are dry for at least 24hrs, longer if possible you can re-clear over the top of them and after that has dried you can carefully flat back and polish the clear to a finish. Sometimes when using 2K clear if you get the thinning and spraying technique just right, you will end up with a beautiful finish and shine straight from the airbrush and leave yourself little or no polishing to do. There is another way to do it and that is to apply the clear after the basecoat has dried and spray this to a finish, allow to dry, polish the clear to a finish, apply your decals and not overcoat them with any clear. It's a very personal choice, for me I always clear over the decals but I never used to do that for many years, so it's up to you which path you choose. I do it to protect the decals and to stop them yellowing and cracking with time, as they sometimes can do this but not always. Some of the models I have built from 5-6 years ago are still like new with the 2K clear overcoat. Some from before I used to clear are tired looking, slightly yellowed and in some cases the decals have cracked or peeled.. To sum up try and find a method that works for you and stick with it. You need to experiment a bit and try different things. If you are forgetful like me get yourself a little book and write down what you do on your models regarding the painting processes. Note down the ones that you are happy with and how you painted them and you can then refer back to the notes later if you have problems. Also note down your failures so you can see in future what , if anything you did wrong, then you'll know how to correct it should it happen again. Don't worry too much and remember that nobody ever suffers zero painting problems. I would say that I make a mess of at least one in five paint jobs. That's why I have a big vat of Isopropyl alcohol waiting for any cock ups that I invariably make. It's always easy to strip and re-paint rather than throw away the kit. Something I can't believe I used to do when I first started to build models some 20 odd years ago...
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Thank yiu very much for taking the time to write that i really appreciate it.
I also got some duplicolor clear which is much thinner than zero right out of the can. Ill mess around with both. |
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This was the first model that I tried the Zero 2K clear on and I was very happy with the finish that can be achieved with it if sprayed correctly. So much so that I've practically used nothing else ever since that day. I firmly believe the key to it's success is in the thinning and the way it's applied. I love the fact that it never sinks into the colour coats. A lot of 1K clears that I've used spray really well and give a nice gloss, but after a nights drying the base colour sucks a lot of life from the clear and you end up with much less gloss than you had the night before. Sometimes needing to re-clear or do lot's of polishing. The 2K stuff is fantastic as it just stays up and the gloss levels remain the same as when you sprayed it. To be honest I was astounded by the finish the 2K can give you, and every time I've used it since that first time I am still amazed by how well it turns out. I've genuinely never had a bad result with it as yet, it really is quality stuff..
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So I masked off a resprayed the yellow. I cooled the spray booth, thinned the zero paint with about 20% thinner and stuck with the super fine needle. What a difference. I think the thinning and cooler air temp was key. SUPER smooth paint, 100% better. If I have time I will clear it tinight .
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sooo...i sprayed the clear...I forgot to clean the needle after I sprayed the yellow the first time, in my other airbrush. Clear went on nicely, with a yellow tint over the white.
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Focusing on the job and paying attention to details would easily fix your last mishap.
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I was able to recover it by adding white to the clear and respraying, then respraying clear by itself. Yello tint is gone. As of right now, the body needs to be cleared one last time, then decals applied, then cleared again. This certainly is frustrating, but I'm definitely learning a lot. |
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