Car/audio problems - Page 2

low · 03-05-2005, 03:01 PM

cool lets not junk up this thread if you have a problem PM me

ponchonutty · 03-05-2005, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CBFryman

i was refering to your posts because you dont know me.
It doesnt matter what shorts out, it could be a stock light bulb being submerged in water causing the short, if it blows a fuse and creates a big enough shock to the system it is common that the EMS will shut itsself off. Thats what i was calling common, not shorts happening from installs....

Been working on vehicle electronics now for over 15 years and am MECP certified and I never have heard of this "EMS". What the hell!!! So when the EMS kicks in do you hear lights and sirens???

CBFryman · 03-06-2005, 01:25 PM

EMS is Engine Managmenet System.
it includes all things manageing the engine, along with the harness and sensors. where as the ECU (engine controll unit) is the brain...

bumpinstang77 · 03-06-2005, 04:30 PM

MECP= means nothing..... not trying to bash on you poncho but I've talked to some MECP certified people.....actually more then just some..... who are complete idiots and know nothing about car audio...... MECP is almost as bad as the whole CES amp approval thing

ponchonutty · 03-06-2005, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CBFryman

EMS is Engine Managmenet System.
it includes all things manageing the engine, along with the harness and sensors. where as the ECU (engine controll unit) is the brain...

Sorry but still never heard of it. I've got to do some work on a new H2 on Monday so I'll ask the guys in the service depo if they are aware of anything.

Personally, if there actually is such a thing, it sounds great for the hacker that has no clue on how to work with vehicle electronics!

ponchonutty · 03-06-2005, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bumpinstang77

MECP= means nothing..... not trying to bash on you poncho but I've talked to some MECP certified people.....actually more then just some..... who are complete idiots and know nothing about car audio...... MECP is almost as bad as the whole CES amp approval thing

Yes, I know what you mean. It's sometimes no different than ASC repair shops. Many times there are just knobs but there usually are some bright techs too. Same is true with MECP. Once I worked with this kid that I swear to you I watched him install a brand new Python alarm with remote start, pager, and timer module in a new Dodge Ram all in under an hour. Everything looked great and the guy never had to come back for any problems. Anyway, this installer was awsome at alarm installs and not too shabby on stereos. Well, he flunked the MECP test big time. It took me 2 times to pass. Not that it was all that hard because there were only actually a few questions. The problem was that they repeated those same questions over and over while just changing some of the wording a bit.

CBFryman · 03-06-2005, 08:24 PM

your telling me you have no idea what an Engine controll unit is?... ya know the little thing that controlls spark timing, fule management, reads signals from the MAF, O2 sensor, throttle position, etc... and adjusts fule pressure and injector rate acourdingly?
just to let you know the carburator is a thing of the past

PaulD · 03-06-2005, 09:49 PM

I have the MECP basic exam study guide of about 4 years ago, it has lots of errors in it on basic elctronics/physics stuff. They were supposed to fix it, I don't know if they ever did. Theoretically, it's a good starting place but being certified is NOT a gaurantee that the person really knows what they are doing.

bumpinstang77 · 03-07-2005, 01:06 PM

Yea I think research and a lot of experience (w/o fuckin shit up) is what makes you a RELIABLE installer not some dumbass test...... bein a good installer is a lot more research more experince and a decent knowledge of what the hells goin on w. everything.

CBFryman · 03-07-2005, 03:15 PM

i got all my experence/knowledge from reading up on the internet, working as clean up at a local installer, and evne though i was sapposed to be cleaning up after i learned a good bit i started helping out with installs

ngsm13 · 03-07-2005, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CBFryman

i got all my experence/knowledge from reading up on the internet, working as clean up at a local installer, and evne though i was sapposed to be cleaning up after i learned a good bit i started helping out with installs

NG

bumpinstang77 · 03-07-2005, 06:21 PM

lol.... how much shit did u fuck up? ....... don't lie

PaulD · 03-08-2005, 08:50 PM

If you guys know how much stupid stuff I did when I was young, you probably wouldn't listen to a word I said.

bumpinstang77 · 03-09-2005, 12:59 AM

yea but ur old now so we forgive you.... we have to..... Do you get your senior citezins discount yet? ...... jusss messin w. ya man

PaulD · 03-10-2005, 06:00 PM

naaawww .... a couple of more years

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