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Old 01-26-2007, 05:19 PM   #16
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Re: sleeper question

I live on Pacific really close to Dodge, and I can hear street racing from my house. In other news, the second gen Taurus SHO is an swesome sleeper. I'm looking into one myself.
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Re: sleeper question

thats awesome im gonna watch out for em, lol now i want one bad
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Re: sleeper question

SHO = garbage IMO. Pontiac made the Grand Prix GTP to compete with the SHO and quite frankly the SHO does not do it's job to compete IMO. It is not only slower but is not nearly as easy to make fast as the GTP.
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Old 01-28-2007, 08:53 PM   #19
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idk much about the SHO but ive heard there are engine issues
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SHO = garbage IMO. Pontiac made the Grand Prix GTP to compete with the SHO and quite frankly the SHO does not do it's job to compete IMO. It is not only slower but is not nearly as easy to make fast as the GTP.
I haven't really looked at the GTP, so I wouldn't know, but I still like the SHO a lot.
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Re: sleeper question

on my monte carlo forum there are alot of people trying to add performance that use the GTP as a power reference. i dnt have anything against the SHO
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It take A LOT of make an SHO fast. A guy I worked with for a while had one and put close to 2 grand into the engine and he was still running something like high 14's. He usually did road racing and autocross though which it did very well at.
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Re: sleeper question

Thats extremely slow for two grand unless he invested in stuff for the autocross and all and wasnt focusing on speed so much. If fact you could buy a monte carlo z34 like I have and put it in the 13s for about that, and with a V6 engine.
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Thats extremely slow for two grand unless he invested in stuff for the autocross and all and wasnt focusing on speed so much. If fact you could buy a monte carlo z34 like I have and put it in the 13s for about that, and with a V6 engine.

Yeah I know...he put that into the engine (cam(s), exhaust, intake manifold, etc.) That car was slow as all hell in a straight line for the money that he put into it but it was very quick in the road races and autoX events.
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Thats pretty cool. I wouldnt have bet on a SHO in a autocross show so i bet alot of people were like wtf when they saw that lol.
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Re: sleeper question

What good mods are there for the Z34 then?
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Re: sleeper question

Digital Horsepower PCM= about 20 hp
Turbo kit= around 100 hp
Hot Cam= around 40 hp
Roller Rockers= about 15 hp
Intake And Exhaust = 20 hp
M90 supercharger = around 70 hp? Idk for sure but its a very popular mod

This is what I can think of off the top of my head. The 13 second Monte had to do with the turbo kit. Along with these if you were to get a supercharger or possibly a turbo you would buy a L67 engine to drop in. Its the same price as just changing parts on the stock L36 but considered a better alternative to buy the L67.
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Re: sleeper question

Yep, the SHO is so much harder to mod than the GTP too. The GTP looks far better IMO as well. The thing is with the GTP is that is already supercharged so modding is a breeze. You can put them into 13's with less than $1000. SHO is going to be stuck in 14's or even still 15's more likely after that much money. The SHO is just too much of a family sedan. While the Grand Prix GTP can still be a sedan and on hell of a sleeper it still has a very nice look to it.

Oh, and you would be better off just going with the superchraged Monte Carlos (which will get pricy because they did not s/c them until 04) but I would just stick with the s/c GTP. It is not that much more money and it comes with a stronger tranny.
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Re: sleeper question

Yea the GTP runs an L67 engine and they dont come any stronger than that for the 3800 series. Theres a beefed up tranny too I believe? Yeah once you get that engine you dont have to worry about much physical damage. What I love about the GTP is it has such an aggressive look. And even though its a little ricer I like a low profile bumper kit on it. Only thing I dont like is the fact that alot of people have them. I see about one a week and theres even some chick at my school who has one and I dont even think she understands what engine it has. But I guess that just adds to the sleeper look. Debadged the thing would great. Ive seen people who think theyre hot shit with their GP stock and they try racing and I just laugh.
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