20" Challenge wheels...coming soon

[ZoomZoomMX-5]

I was sent this photo today from Scale Production; these 20" monolithic Challenge wheels are nearly ready for production. He's adjusting the master so the front/rear offset look correct (rear spokes are slightly flatter than front).

Can't wait..I've been waiting for the proper 20" diameter Challenge wheels ever since the kits came out and only came w/ pentagram wheels

[gionc]

@Mike: is this the wax prototyping you mentioned in past? Looks wonderful. I think I need an address.....

Bravo!

Too bad they didn't used those BBS riding the Panamerican.... I must digest those horrible pentagrams...

[Mikezibit]

Originally Posted by gionc

@Mike: is this the wax prototyping you mentioned in past? Looks wonderful. I think I need an address.....

yes the wheel is made with a wax machine, I`m suprised from the quality, much better than all the laser printers, the machine needs 7 hours for one wheel



Mike

[gionc]

Originally Posted by Mikezibit

yes the wheel is made with a wax machine, I`m suprised from the quality, much better than all the laser printers, the machine needs 7 hours for one wheel



Mike

ah ok, so it's much outher than what I'll afford
BTW the proto system I used in past is not STL or similar that uses laser but just layer printing, I guess similar

Anyway: great job!!

[DasWiesel]

Never heard of a wax machine, but the wheels are looking great!
Seems like i could stop working on my own challenge wheel.

[jano11]

Originally Posted by ZoomZoomMX-5

Can't wait..I've been waiting for the proper 20" diameter Challenge wheels ever since the kits came out and only came w/ pentagram wheels

Properly sized 20" BBS Challenge wheels were available already a couple of weeks ago, and properly sized tires with the right PZero thread are molded as we speak :

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbul...&postcount=112

[voyageur]

Originally Posted by jano11

Properly sized 20" BBS Challenge wheels were available already a couple of weeks ago, and properly sized tires with the right PZero thread are molded as we speak :

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbul...&postcount=112

Hi jano,

with all due respect to you and your work... no offense, but I honestly think that I'll go for SP's wheels. They seem to be a lot more acurate and crisp. Yours somehow look a bit soft, especially around the center. Coming to speak of that... I just noticed that the SP wheels do not have a center cap. Will this be filled with a kit part or will they offer a matching cap? Mike, please enlighten me and the other readers! How much are they going to cost?

Cheers

[BVC500]

I think both sets look good, and both sets may or may not have their trade-offs. Ioan's wheels are more accurately sized and will include the correct tires, but also include a detail missing from Scale Production set (at least from what I can tell). That detail happens to be a small lip along the base of the rim at the bottom of the smaller triangle (see red box in photo).

However, the Scale Production wheel does include the slightly thicker rear spokes. (see blue boxes in photo).

Both sets look great to me, but I am partial to Ioan and have three sets on order. I'll buy a Scale Production set too, as I have plenty of Ferraris to put these gorgeous wheels on. Both have put a lot of effort into these wheels and I'm glad we have them now! Why do model manufacturers typically give us crappy wheels (I can think of Tamiya's Z3 as a notorious example)?!

[jano11]

Originally Posted by voyageur

Hi jano,

with all due respect to you and your work... no offense, but I honestly think that I'll go for SP's wheels.

No offense at all. I won't make hundreds of them anyway. I made them for Bernard who asked me a long time ago plus a few friends and for myself. I'm pretty sure that I will not make more than 20 sets of them everything considered.

For me it was more about the challenge (no pun intended) of making a set of tires that have the correct dimensions and thread for the Pirelli PZero's used by Ferrari on these rims.

And BTW

Originally Posted by voyageur

They seem to be a lot more acurate and crisp. Yours somehow look a bit soft, especially around the center.

The original wheels are not sharper or crispier around center either.
See for yourself:
http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/sho...#post138790755

Anyway as I said I only did a very small run of them for those who were interested for quite a long time and that will be it.
I just posted here to prove that the 20" Challenge wheels were already done in 1/24th scale before.
I'm not into making money out of my modeler work, I'm just having fun making new parts.

[jano11]

Originally Posted by BVC500

I think both sets look good, and both sets may or may not have their trade-offs. Ioan's wheels are more accurately sized and will include the correct tires, but also include a detail missing from Scale Production set (at least from what I can tell). That detail happens to be a small lip along the base of the rim at the bottom of the smaller triangle (see red box in photo).

To be honest from what I can see the Scale Production wheels do have that small lip too.

[klutz_100]

In armour and aircraft modelling they call it "rivet counting" so what's the automotive strain..."spoke counting"?

j/k guys - I admire everyone's enthusiasm and efforts here

[BVC500]

20 inch BBS Challenge wheels are almost as important as a new 1/24 car kit!

[voyageur]

Hi jano,

I must apologize to you. I didn't know that your wheels are home-made small quantity run DIYs. Thought you have a business and sell them professionally. Knowing that now I salute you to what you achieved. Much respect!

Greetz

[MidMazar]

I gotta say that both wheels look good. My point of view is you guys are both from europe, so shipping to the states is a killer.

Hey Mike, I've noticed that the 19" bbs lm are all gone. Is there another batch going to be made, im sure theres a market for them. Plus i never ordered mine and wanted a few sets.

[xerox3]

When are these wheels going to be available? I need 2 sets.TIA Mark