who would win 1/4? - Page 4

WV85RX7 · 07-07-2004, 08:59 AM

You guys don't know squat about rotary drag racing.
Jesus Padilla runs mid 9's in his 85 GSL 3 rotor beast. Designed to run in the 2 litre class he whopped ASS all over any Acura, Honda or Neon.

They banned him from running (I guess 3 rotors is a tad too much for those 4 bangers).

PLUS- It was all NA!!! No turbo, no S/C, NO JUICE. http://www.battleoftheimports.com/ba...spadilla.shtml

Shit- Give me 25k to blow on a project car and I would have one bad 1st gen pulling 10's no prob. N/A to boot. AND the sucker would handle like a sled on rails to boot.

Neons. Sheesh.

mx3man · 07-07-2004, 10:13 AM

thats besides the point. this poll is to find out which car is better overall. Im sure for every fast rotary, there is a faster SRT-4, 350Z, or S2000. The thread is supposed to be a analytical discussion, discussing the stong and weak points of the above cars.

WV85RX7 · 07-07-2004, 10:35 AM

Looks like the thread was originally intended to see which car (stock) boasts faster 1/4 mile times. In which case- just cut'n'paste R&T or Car & Driver stats for your answer. Some of the drag queens were boasting about modded cars for drag racing- my point is a modded rotary can best damn near anything N/A!!

Meh- I hate drag racing. None of the vehicles listed (with the exception of maybe the Neon) were designed with straight line times in mind. These are touring/sports cars. If the question is which is the better overall car then I would choose the 350Z. Tried and true engineering and Nissan racing heritage. Closely followed by the s2000, thirdly the RX-8 and lastly the Neon.

The RX-8 renesis powerplant is too new an adaption to effectively rate. In a few years (if they continue development) it may surpass the 350Z.

UnlimitedEK9 · 07-09-2004, 07:53 PM

Honda S2000 14.1 @ 99.2mph
Dodge SRT-4 14.2 @ 101.5mph
Nissan 350Z Roadster Touring 14.3 @ 99.5mph
Nissan 350Z Track 14.4 @ 99.7mph
Mazda RX-8 14.5 @ 95.6mph

These numbers are from Road & Track's Road Test Summary August '04 (pg.132-133)

As you can tell the 1/4 Times only differ 1/10 of a sec between each car...

UnlimitedEK9

96EKB16BCoupe · 07-10-2004, 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LOWMONTE817

350Z
SRT-4
S2000
RX-8

I have to say the 350Z would probably win. Although it would deffinately come down to the driver. Both the 350Z and the SRT-4 are rated at 14.0 from the factory. I hate neons, but the SRT-4's are fast as hell. I watched one pull a 13.8 pretty much stock with only better tires and a couple hundred bucks put into it in mods. And they are an AWD car by the way not Front Wheel Drive. But I do agree that all of the other cars are in a different class than the peon, uhh I mean neon. If I were to buy one, it would deffinately be the nissan.

I must say this kid is fully retarded. Go to the Dodge website, go to NEONS... click on srt-4 and look at drivetrain stats. It's FWD unlike the earlier amazing turbo-4 DSMs of our time.

Btw... quarter mile is for kids who cant drive

LOWMONTE817 · 07-12-2004, 10:12 AM

Relax dude. No need to be talkin shit. I was just misinformed about the srt-4 being awd. I was told it was by a friend who OWNS a dodge dealarship, so I thought the info was reliable. But apparently not, it is front wheel drive.

bradcfi · 07-12-2004, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UnlimitedEK9

Honda S2000 14.1 @ 99.2mph
Dodge SRT-4 14.2 @ 101.5mph
Nissan 350Z Roadster Touring 14.3 @ 99.5mph
Nissan 350Z Track 14.4 @ 99.7mph
Mazda RX-8 14.5 @ 95.6mph

These numbers are from Road & Track's Road Test Summary August '04 (pg.132-133)

As you can tell the 1/4 Times only differ 1/10 of a sec between each car...

UnlimitedEK9

I'd like to say that this thread and indeed the entire RX-8 section is missing the most important difference about this car. But first let me highlight what seems to be agreed on as this cars advantages.

high revving smoth rotory
weight and balance
steering & cornering
style

Put all those things, and the 1/4 stats from above together and add the fact that four adults can get in and out and ride comortably makes this car an absolute winner.

In my case last weekend I had 3 adults and an aft facing baby seat in my RX8 and the front seats were not pushed forward to accomodate.

This car shouldn't even be compared to the 2 seaters but it is and I would have to say that all these competitors should be shaking in the driving boots as this is Mazda's first year and you know that a power upgrade is coming.

PS RX8 beat all these cars at Phoenix Sport Touring 200 at Phoenix International Raceway in April.

bradcfi · 07-12-2004, 02:27 PM

Sorry SRT-4 I didn't mention that you have a back seat and four doors but that's because it shouldn't be comapred either as it's a family sedan and it's turbo'd. If it takes a turbo to get you here then you'll be left when we all fit turbos to our naturally aspirated engines, won't you?

mx3man · 07-12-2004, 02:56 PM

yes, but the point is the STOCK cars... you could also crank up the boost on an SRT-4 so.. it would still b up there

bradcfi · 07-12-2004, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mx3man

yes, but the point is the STOCK cars... you could also crank up the boost on an SRT-4 so.. it would still b up there

Pissing match... You got stats on what hp you would gain by cranking the boost? It won't be that much. Face it the SRT-4 has 230 hp with a turbo the rest of these cars have more than that without a turbo.

mx3man · 07-12-2004, 04:35 PM

i personally know a guy whith an SRT-4 and all he did was bought a boost controller to crank up his boost a bit. Running on street tires and CAI, he does low 13s... with more boost he could easily be in the 12s. Not saying what impossible that the other cars could be faster. The most likely could, but you have to be fair and see that the Neon can be boosted up too.

bradcfi · 07-12-2004, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mx3man

i personally know a guy whith an SRT-4 and all he did was bought a boost controller to crank up his boost a bit. Running on street tires and CAI, he does low 13s... with more boost he could easily be in the 12s. Not saying what impossible that the other cars could be faster. The most likely could, but you have to be fair and see that the Neon can be boosted up too.

I do get it. And if you turbo these other cars then you can boost them too... checkmate! LOL

mx3man · 07-12-2004, 06:09 PM

no, because to be FAIR... you spend equal amounts of money... while you're blowing money beefing up the internals of the other cars, the SRT-4 can spend more time boosting...

bradcfi · 07-12-2004, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mx3man

no, because to be FAIR... you spend equal amounts of money... while you're blowing money beefing up the internals of the other cars, the SRT-4 can spend more time boosting...

Nice try but it's not about the money. If that were true everybody would beefing up civics and talons.

Fact one: these cars have more hp than the SRT-4 without turbos and they're widley accepted as sports cars.

Fact two: the SRT-4 is a family sedan.

My point from the begining is that the SRT-4 does not belong in this comparison.

03'350z · 07-13-2004, 12:09 AM

actually it would go 350 SRT-4 s2000 then RX-8

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View Poll Results: who would win 1/4mile???
rx-8	17	15.04%
s2000	18	15.93%
350z	46	40.71%
srt-4	32	28.32%
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