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Old 04-26-2005, 05:29 PM   #91
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Re: Bow Before Thy Mater, Bitches (Pics/ My Project)

wait... an xxx18 can beat a W7....?
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Old 04-26-2005, 06:50 PM   #92
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Re: Bow Before Thy Mater, Bitches (Pics/ My Project)

PaulD is right on both accounts. Sometimes I run tweets 180 degrees out of phase to help with the harshness but even that sometimes doesn't help too much depending on the product or setup.
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Old 04-26-2005, 07:21 PM   #93
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which part didn't you get ..... ?

a soundstage refers to how the intruments and voices are placed in front of you - sub bass is omnidirctional, so you're not gonna get much "stage" out of it

placing mids/tweets in close proximity to a hard surface will make them sound "bright" because the early reflections are so close to the actual sound. When you put tweeters facing the front glass, it tends to smear the image accross the dash.
PaulD, I was AGREEING with you. That after comment was made in reference to CB...when he called me "clueless" when I pointed a similar thing out that you did

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Old 04-26-2005, 07:23 PM   #94
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wait... an xxx18 can beat a W7....?
I gaurantee mine will WALK ALL OVER a 13w7...any day of the week

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Old 04-26-2005, 07:34 PM   #95
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Re: Bow Before Thy Mater, Bitches (Pics/ My Project)

Paul, what do you mean by smearing the image across the dash? for the most part insturment placement is general, not good by any means, being the poor acoustical properties of vehicles and me having only mediocure componets with the mids in the doors running off of a stock HU/POS amp. but if a symbol was meant to seem left-center it is pretty much left-center, not "smeared" across the dash.
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Old 04-26-2005, 07:37 PM   #96
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PaulD is right on both accounts.
like that is anything new?
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Old 04-27-2005, 09:51 AM   #97
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it will "smear" the image because you getthe initial sound pulse plus all the pulses right after it (a few mS at most) boucing off of all the hard surfaces. It will be like having a main tweeter, and several tweeters around it located where the hard surfaces are, making it sound like a single sound is coming from multiple locations. So instead of a point surface, it is streched or smeared across a wide space.
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Re: Bow Before Thy Mater, Bitches (Pics/ My Project)

I guess I like it when that happens
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Re: Bow Before Thy Mater, Bitches (Pics/ My Project)

i geuss i do to then, lol
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Old 04-28-2005, 03:05 PM   #100
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I gaurantee mine will WALK ALL OVER a 13w7...any day of the week

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what about a XXX 12 or 15?
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Old 04-28-2005, 03:45 PM   #101
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Re: Bow Before Thy Mater, Bitches (Pics/ My Project)

this shit has been posted all over the web...look for it yo' self.
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google it is
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Re: Bow Before Thy Mater, Bitches (Pics/ My Project)

sorry if i seemed harsh, but its constantly noobs asking...its been proven that not only the XXX 15 but also the Brahma MK I 15 are louder than the JL dub7 13. the XXX 12 is not louder than the dUB7 13 but it will give a dub7 12 a run for its money. plus the XXX12 is more practical because it is DVC. JL pretty much set up the dub7 to only work with JL amps with funky impeadences.
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Old 04-28-2005, 03:57 PM   #104
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Re: Bow Before Thy Mater, Bitches (Pics/ My Project)

its ok, im trying to avoid nubish questions, but ive never heard of RE or anything else aside from you standard brands, until i came here, and im glad i did. i was gonna use alpine subs, but not now, im going RE.
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Old 04-28-2005, 04:01 PM   #105
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Re: Bow Before Thy Mater, Bitches (Pics/ My Project)

another notch in the RE whore belt, lol.
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