Civics Kick Ass

[GTStang]

Ok as for the price it is only fair to compare them in the U.S. I lived in France for 3 months and was surprised all taxis were Benzs and Audi's until it was explianed they are dirt cheap in Europe. So if you start looking at what u pay for the cars u listed vs. STS in america the STS is a deal. As for turning your wrong, just as a base Taurus cant turn worth shit and Taurus SHO will outurn integras,maximas,etc.., Same thing happens here the STS has a handling package and it will turn better than you think

[JBL85]

Taurus SHO out turn a Type R.....hmm......hold on i just fell over laughing let me get back up

[TatII]

what GTSTANG meant was that, think of a taurus handling package as a MAX se. in straight line it will pretty much kill every honda, but the standard max aren't great handlers. but if you get it in SE trim it will handle better then you would expect from a car of htat size. same thing with the taurus. even though i know nothing abuot this car, but i think this is what GTSTANG meant. i'm almost positive.

[GTStang]

Thanks TATII that is what i meant and it will out turn an Integra too. I dunno bout Type R and I said nothing of it but if it has the same set-up as a stock Integra it will. The SHO has better skid pad and slalom numbers than a stock integra.

[TatII]

no prob gtstang. well all have our preferences. even i do respect some american cars, the camero SS or the Z06 in particular, i still chose JDM cars over them. i don't disrespect american muscle in anyway, csaue you could get a 320hp car for only 25,000. but i'd still pick my imports. heh. not just any cheap ones though, i mean if i had a choice of a civic or a integra to a mustang or a camaro? noooooo contest. american muscle all the way. but if its between a rx-7, gt-r, evo, or nsx, to a Z06 or a viper? i would pick the super JDM's over them. its all a matter of preference.

[JBL85]

Ok.....dont get me started GTSTANG.......those ford Taurus SHO things cost way more then a normal integra, your comparing a 27k car to a 17k integra, get a 24k GSR and it will spank a Taurus SHO on and off track. So thats basically a dumb comparison, care to try again?

[joeB]

SHO's were faster from 89 to 94 than a Maxima,

but when the Maxima came out in 95, it was faster

than a SHO. The 96 SHO took a crap with the V-8

and the Automatic, which let Maximas beat them even more.

[JBL85]

Well Said Joe

[del]

Originally posted by joeB
SHO's were faster from 89 to 94 than a Maxima,

but when the Maxima came out in 95, it was faster

than a SHO. The 96 SHO took a crap with the V-8

and the Automatic, which let Maximas beat them even more.

the most recent SHO's with the 3.5L V8s was more like the oldsmobile aurora. not really anything of a sports sedan, much more of a touring sedan than anything. it failed miserably. but the SHO's prior to that were pretty quick.

as far as picking between a z06 and an rx-7 or supra, it'd be a hard decision. have you driven a z06 before? those things are damn fast. it may lack the refinement and fit and finish of the japanese counterparts, but when it comes down to pure no-nonsense power, the z06 is hard to beat. especially for its price.

[Someguy]

I'm sure the Z06 lacks some of the refinement of some of the other cars you mentioned, but that's kind of the point.

Build quality on the Vettes is generally extremely good. The only problem with the car is that at some point you will probably have to deal with a Chevy dealer which just sucks.

[GTStang]

The comparison was not an SHO vs Integra. It was how a previously larger car with shitty handling can be improved cuz the car manufacturer wants sportier intentions. As in te SLS versus the improvement in a STS. Also A 92'-95 SHO will beat down a Maxima SE and out turn it. But I'd like to say something bout people saying american cars can't turn. I have heard lots of my import driving friends say this to me and I have no problem keep up with them in turns. I give that there skipad might be .2-.3 better than mine but if you think that will make you just pull away np your wrong. And after that lil lead you got your gonna lose cuz after all the turns there will always be a striaght away

[JBL85]

hmm......ok race an m3 and a gt stang. BYE BYE Mustang.....as much as I love how a GT can slam your head back on teh head rest and make you smile while you fly.....it handles like shit and its American so it aint all that.

[p_r_i_m_e_r_a]

Originally posted by GTStang
As for turning your wrong, just as a base Taurus cant turn worth shit and Taurus SHO will outurn integras,maximas,etc..,

All I am gonna say is:

SHO.........................POWERED BY YAMAHA!!!!!

[JBL85]

I know, these guys swear SHO does shit for those cars.....every ford I see that is SHO looks like shi******************t......i mean its like american cars wear so bad.....all old import cars look good still. I guess its either people who own american cars take bad care of them or they just are crapy from the start.

[joeB]

The 95 and on Maximas are still faster than sho's.