cant shift

[98eclipsercr]

hey i bought an 97 gs eclipse and i from an auction but when i start the car it started right away but when i was trying to shift gears it wont let me but when the car is off it will shift. please let me know what might be the problem is it the clutch or what?

[kcap122]

what do u mean it wont let you? is it like u get a grinding sound when u try to push it in?

or the kind of "wont let you" like when ur doin 60mph and u accidentally slip it towards 2nd gear?


if its lettin u shift but ur not goin anywhere, ur synchros or flywheel might be gone

[98eclipsercr]

yeah it makes the grinding sound

[kcap122]

u mite wanna get ur shifter checked out. it sounds like the teeth on the collar mite be messed up

[91300zxtt]

are u pushing in the clutch by ur foot while shifting gears?

[98eclipsercr]

no i was pushing it with my hands haha j/k, yea i was pushing it with my foot

[91300zxtt]

haha hmmm i have no idea man like others said go get it checked out

[98eclipsercr]

how much u think is to get it fixed if the teeth on the collar is messed up? thanks

[kcap122]

honestly i dont know, i dont kno of anyone whos had to have that done.

id GUESS that it would probly either be as much as any other problem involving the transmission (read: a lot of $$$) or it could be as much as a new shifter ($100) + labor at ur local shop. i dont kno if they need to replace just the shifter for the collar, or some part of the tranny. best thing u can do is do a little online research on shifters so u dont sound dumb to the techie when u go to the garage, and hope for a good quote. im not a expert on this though, just my 2 cents

[98eclipsercr]

what if just change it to a short shifter? is it totally 2 different things or is the same? caz i was thinking of getting a short shifter, maybe that might solve my problem, o i was wondering maybe its my oil in the tranny caz i havnt check my oil and my car was sitting there for like 5 to 6 months

[kcap122]

the shifter, as far as i kno, doesnt actually have the collar that i'm talking about on it. for instance, i did a search on google to find short shifter pictures, and i found this...
http://www.240sx.org/links/installs/...r/pmsshift.jpg

actually gives you a good idea of where the collar is. See, the thing that makes me think its your collar is that ALL your gears are making that grinding, which would make sense if the device used to shift to ALL of them was messed up.

and yea, if you've got a hunch it might be the tranny grinding caus of the oil, by all means go ahead and chek it out. cant hurt, right? u might even find somethin else that looks funny

[98eclipsercr]

yeah i checked my oil and it seemed fine but i called my techie and explained everything to him and he said its the clutch caz when the car is off u can shift but once u trun on the car there is no clutch so thats y it wont let it shift but u know how those ppl r they just wanna get u in the shop but i'll see what im gonna do thanks for ur help tho

[98eclipsercr]

o sorry i forgot to add this in the picture that u post it shows totally different things caz in my shifter there is 2 wires connected thats it when i shift those 2 wires move around

[kcap122]

hey im no expert man, just givin my

good luck

EDIT: also the picture i found, was not for ur car, i was just tryng to show how te collar is not actually a part of a short shifter like u can install urself.

[streetracerdude]

Originally Posted by 98eclipsercr

yeah it makes the grinding sound

My 1988 Honda CRX si was doing the same thing. I got a new tranny and tightend up my clutch cable.