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Old 07-13-2005, 11:05 PM   #1
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Lightbulb Too early for GT500 vs '07 Skyline GTR?

I read an article about the next Skyline GTR. It's expected to make your pockets about $70,000 dollars lighter, but it only packs around 450 horses. Can anyone confirm this? If this is true? How would it stand, on paper and the road, against a Shelby GT500? Or is it way too early to compare potential value and performance?
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Old 07-13-2005, 11:21 PM   #2
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Re: Too early for GT500 vs '07 Skyline GTR?

yeah i really need to lighten my wallet $70,000 dollars...too early to compare
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Old 07-13-2005, 11:23 PM   #3
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Re: Too early for GT500 vs '07 Skyline GTR?

A little early to compare but just the price makes me go with the Gt500.
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Old 07-14-2005, 04:30 AM   #4
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Re: Too early for GT500 vs '07 Skyline GTR?

I don't give two shits about horsepower, and the GT500 designers have already stated that handling was an afterthought with the GT500. Their tire and suspension setup is designed to allow the car to launch better. For example, they have 30 mm wider rubber on the rear, which keeps the rear tires from going up in smoke, but it doesn't help the car's tendency to understeer.
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Old 07-14-2005, 05:24 AM   #5
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Re: Too early for GT500 vs '07 Skyline GTR?

ur comparing a car that took 6~7 years to develope aganist a car that was base on something made to be cheap and fast for its price tag.

Ur comparing a car that was ment to be extreamly ahead of its time, against and ordenary sport car.

Ur comparing Nissan's flagship performance car (as Kman put it) against something down the line for ford...
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Old 07-14-2005, 05:27 AM   #6
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Re: Too early for GT500 vs '07 Skyline GTR?

It's not like the GT500 isn't every bit as legendary as the GT-R is, and it's also Ford's flagship performance car (since the GT counts as a supercar, IMO). However, it's just designed to do something that I don't much care to do...
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Re: Too early for GT500 vs '07 Skyline GTR?

but i don't believe ford set up a maintanace garage next to the nurburgring just to develope the GT500.
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Re: Too early for GT500 vs '07 Skyline GTR?

I can't really speculate anything about either of these cars but give the GT500 a little more credit. The car is built on a whole new chassis and has a motor from a supercar. The suspension is designed to handle well. It has the same rear suspension setup that gave ford the win in the Grand Am against porshe and BMW. The car is a real performer not just a half thought out mustang with a bigger engine dropped under the hood.
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Re: Too early for GT500 vs '07 Skyline GTR?

i agree it should be given some more credit , it will be tasty
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Re: Too early for GT500 vs '07 Skyline GTR?

Oh yeah, I don't mean to say the GT500 is a bad car at all. If drag racing and hot rodding is your thing, then it's the best car to come from an American company in a long time. The handling isn't necessarily bad, either. I'm just saying that there are many better-handling vehicles for less money. Also, with 475 horsepower, performance-tuned engine and a 4000-lb curb weight, the gas mileage is going to be absolutely abyssmal. C&D estimated 13/21 when they tested it, and I don't doubt it. I know that performance cars are not supposed to get great gas mileage, but I think that at least 20 mpg combined is reasonable.
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Re: Re: Too early for GT500 vs '07 Skyline GTR?

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Oh yeah, I don't mean to say the GT500 is a bad car at all. If drag racing and hot rodding is your thing, then it's the best car to come from an American company in a long time. The handling isn't necessarily bad, either. I'm just saying that there are many better-handling vehicles for less money. Also, with 475 horsepower, performance-tuned engine and a 4000-lb curb weight, the gas mileage is going to be absolutely abyssmal. C&D estimated 13/21 when they tested it, and I don't doubt it. I know that performance cars are not supposed to get great gas mileage, but I think that at least 20 mpg combined is reasonable.
im sorry but i dont know anything about the new GT500...but i think i just understood that it is going to have 475hp and 4000 curb weight.

and your saying that the GTR "ONLY" packs 450hp??? you act as if the GT500 is on top of 600hp+. your talking 25hp and i doubt the GTR is gonna weigh more than 3500lbs. this makes the power to weight better than the GT500.

combined with the "no power robbing AWD system" of the new GTR. yes thats right, an AWD car that doesnt suffer from AWD powertrain loss. the front wheels are powered by electric motors, obviously at a very high performance level. this minimizes weight and powertrain loss of a standard AWD system but still all the performance benefits. the Nissan Cube and a few others already ahve this electronic system in production but are only offered to Japan.

from looking at numbers that we already know...it looks like for $70k...it doesnt get much better. but we will have to wait to see what nissan actually does.
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I would go with the GT-R (at least for now)....

Although this is all speculation, I think the extensive testing that nissan has been doing and the new technologies that will be implemented in the car are going to make it an awesome performer overall, track and street. Also, there's the advantage of AWD in adverse weather, and I believe that it is supposed to be a 4 seater as well. Though the cobra will undoubtedly be the acceleration bang for buck, i highly doubt it'll be as fun to track as the GT-R. Plus, if a highly tuned R35 GT-R sounds anywhere near as good as an R34.......drooooooool......
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Re: Too early for GT500 vs '07 Skyline GTR?

The next GTR is going to have to be an absolute corker to change my opinion about Skylines.


At the moment I'll take the Mustang, given that little is actually known about the 2007 GTR.
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Old 07-14-2005, 10:36 PM   #14
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Re: Too early for GT500 vs '07 Skyline GTR?

and any nissan costing $70,000 is going to have to pass the 911 test first.....
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Re: Re: Too early for GT500 vs '07 Skyline GTR?

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and any nissan costing $70,000 is going to have to pass the 911 test first.....
well that wont be needed beings it has been registered for 2007 under the Infiniti badge.

and i agree with Jimster and Drunken Monkey...the GTR better be something special because i never cared for the skylines really except for their performance capabilities and for $70k it better be something really special, which im sure it will be...but it better be unbelievable.

but i know right now, i would never take any mustang over it unless the GTR doesnt come to america then i guess i would be forced to. no disrespect to the mustang...i just have never liked them.
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