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Old 07-25-2004, 10:58 AM   #31
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The G35 is the Skyline In Japan. Ask any japanese guys, they will tell you and show you a poster of G35.. BUT WITH S K Y L I N E on the trunk. or go to japanese Nissan website. Also It is not R35.. it is V35. There is no R35!! while i am at it. the car coming out 2007 IS NOT.. REPEAT.. IS NOT A SKYLINE. It's a new model Name GTR. which is powered by VQ33DDTT not DETT. One elect motor to boost the car while you lift the gas pad. I believe Cosworth and Nissan is working together along with few others.
you're right it's not the r35. nissan names their skylines according to the engine. R32's,R33's and R34's are all powered by the RB series motor, hence names. the new ones are powered by VQ's hence the V35. the new car coming out in 2k7 is the GTR version of the V35 skyline, it's using the same chassis, they might just call it the GTR, but it's a skyline. and it should carry the engine code vq33dett(possibly vq35dett, it's not definite yet). nissan has a system for naming their engines VQ=the engine block, 33(or 35) is the displacement of the engine, D stands for dual overhead cams, E stands for electronic fuel injection, and i'm sure we all know what the TT is for.
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Old 07-25-2004, 11:03 AM   #32
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you're right it's not the r35. nissan names their skylines according to the engine. R32's,R33's and R34's are all powered by the RB series motor, hence names. the new ones are powered by VQ's hence the V35.
That's probably not the case. The R-series Skylines started well before the RB-series engines were introduced. The R30 Skyline never even had an RB, and the R31 got an RB20 midway through the design cycle.
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Old 07-26-2004, 05:54 PM   #33
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That's probably not the case. The R-series Skylines started well before the RB-series engines were introduced. The R30 Skyline never even had an RB, and the R31 got an RB20 midway through the design cycle.
Right. there is no R35. and it's not VQ33DETT.. it's DDTT

2 motors in the car. one for vq33 engine. one elec for the TT. and it is not a skyline. people think it's a skyline. it is like saying 240SX = Spec R. it's not.

also.. there is no R series.. there is only V Spec and V Spec II from Seden Skyline ( GT-R Class)

example: Sentra GXE for a whle.. then SE came out.. now you got Sentra SE-R and the Spec V
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Old 07-26-2004, 06:06 PM   #34
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I do not think they will put a VQ35. Because that is the 350Z engine. which is getting a little crazy in Japan since everyone TT that motor. On top of that. Why would anyone wants to buy GT-R if you can get a Z for a hell lot cheaper? + Z is RWD and GT-R is advance all wheel drive. Z RWD cars are always faster. Unless your talking about rally racing. BUT unlike most of RWD car... Z tend to understeer rather then oversteer for some reason
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Right. there is no R35. and it's not VQ33DETT.. it's DDTT
So you're saying that the motor will have direct injection too? That's what replacing the 'E' for electronic fuel injection with a 'D' for direct injection means.

There's also no telling what the displacement of the GT-R's VQ will be. Nissan is using a VQ30 in their JGTC cars, but sizes of 3.2 and 3.3L have been rumored as well.

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2 motors in the car. one for vq33 engine. one elec for the TT. and it is not a skyline. people think it's a skyline. it is like saying 240SX = Spec R. it's not.
There could be as many as 3 motors, if the rumors about Nissan's use of the E-4wd system are correct.

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also.. there is no R series.. there is only V Spec and V Spec II from Seden Skyline ( GT-R Class)
The R-series was the chassis designation. The V-Spec trim levels were for GT-Rs, and were not used on sedans.

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I do not think they will put a VQ35. Because that is the 350Z engine. which is getting a little crazy in Japan since everyone TT that motor. On top of that. Why would anyone wants to buy GT-R if you can get a Z for a hell lot cheaper? + Z is RWD and GT-R is advance all wheel drive. Z RWD cars are always faster. Unless your talking about rally racing. BUT unlike most of RWD car... Z tend to understeer rather then oversteer for some reason
People will buy a GT-R over the Z for the same reason they have in the past. The GT-R is a more powerful, more technologically advanced car. The Z's are not always faster. Otherwise, they would be Nissan's halo car, as opposed to the GT-R.

Even if the GT-R used a VQ35, it would still be different from the 350Z's version. The 350Z's version is built for running under normal aspiration. The GT-R's VQ, whatever the size, will be built for forced induction from the start. There are rumors that legendary engine builder Cosworth will be building a special, stronger version of the VQ just for the GT-R.
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Old 07-27-2004, 04:29 PM   #36
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"The Skyline continued to astound on the world's racetracks, scooping up trophies wherever it went. By this stage Group A had been replaced with the GT series and the N1 Endurance series, and in the latter the GT-R soon racked up another legendary 50 wins. In Australia the race car earned the nickname Godzilla, so crushing was its superiority. It was inevitable that motorsport''s governing bodies would soon find ways to legislate the formidable GT-R out of contention."

Once again. THERE IS NO R SERIES!! ONLY GT AND N1.. N1 = NISMO RWD SKYLINE.

http://www.supercars.net/cars/1995@$Nissan@$Skyline%20R33%20GT-R.html

Yes ofc It will have different specs on the with the Z. which means the only diff between those two cars will be the ECU, tranny, FR or 4WD and Engine internals. Which to a "racer" that can be change aftermarket wise.

Yes, Cosworth is building one with Nissan a different version of VQ engine FOR THE GT-R. It is as known as VQ33DDTT instead of VQ35DE or VQ33DE and the diff between those two motor. HDi for GT-R and not HDi for Z and G35. so yes you are right, but once again. it can be changed aftermarket wise since they did de stroke the engine to hold more boost with better cams, pistons/rods, and tranny FOR the twin tubro.

HDi = high-pressure direct injection
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"The Skyline continued to astound on the world's racetracks, scooping up trophies wherever it went. By this stage Group A had been replaced with the GT series and the N1 Endurance series, and in the latter the GT-R soon racked up another legendary 50 wins. In Australia the race car earned the nickname Godzilla, so crushing was its superiority. It was inevitable that motorsport''s governing bodies would soon find ways to legislate the formidable GT-R out of contention."

Once again. THERE IS NO R SERIES!! ONLY GT AND N1.. N1 = NISMO RWD SKYLINE.
Once again, that has nothing to do with the chassis designation, which has been 'R' for over 20 years. The R30, R31, R32, R33, R34, and possibly an R35. They are the R-series.

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Yes ofc It will have different specs on the with the Z. which means the only diff between those two cars will be the ECU, tranny, FR or 4WD and Engine internals. Which to a "racer" that can be change aftermarket wise.
The GT-R will be based on a different version of the FM platform, not the 350Z's short wheelbase variant.
The GT-R will have better aerodynamics as well as lighter components. There will be a carbon fiber hood, driveshaft, rear diffuser and seat frames. The roof, suspension arms, rear tailgate and door panels will be made from aluminum.
The GT-R will also have E-4wd powered by a lithium battery. This system will be the replacement for ATTESA-ETS awd. E-4wd activates when traction is lost in the rear wheels, with a permanent rear torque bias. The timing, torque allowance, etc is tuned to improve cornering and turn-in.
The GT-R's engine block will differ in construction(Cosworth uses a special process), and possibly bore size from the VQ35DE

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Yes, Cosworth is building one with Nissan a different version of VQ engine FOR THE GT-R. It is as known as VQ33DDTT instead of VQ35DE or VQ33DE and the diff between those two motor. HDi for GT-R and not HDi for Z and G35. so yes you are right, but once again. it can be changed aftermarket wise since they did de stroke the engine to hold more boost with better cams, pistons/rods, and tranny FOR the twin tubro.
HDi = high-pressure direct injection
The motor will probably be a VQ32DETT built by Cosworth to 470ps+. It will be a less peaky, more driveable version of the VQ30DETT used in the JGTC. Compared to the VQ35DE, the main differences are: 3.2L capacity(possibly destroked from 3.5L), dry sump oiling, twin throttle bodies, Twin motor-assisted turbos(likely fed by the same battery as E4wd), NDIS Direct Ignition and a separate intake manifold for each cylinder bank.
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chassis designation for skyline

Early August 21,1989 BNR32-000051 ~BNR32-017466
Middle August 20,1991 BNR32-212001 ~
Late January 1993 BNR32-300001~ BNR32-314649

Sorry dude.. BNR is not R SERIES. People think it's R series because it's GT "R" and "R" 34 or even Skyline GT type "R" .. it's not dude
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say whatever you want!! Im done here

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