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01-19-2003, 09:28 PM | #1 | |
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Bugatti Veyron 16.4 vs Cadillac Sixteen
Not sure if anyone has started this tread but i been wanting to get some others opinions on the 2 cars since they are similar.
I think the both with 1000hp would make one good race. |
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01-20-2003, 02:41 AM | #2 | |
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moved to car comparisions
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01-20-2003, 04:06 AM | #3 | |
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No question veyron. I'll take a bugatti over a caddilac anyday.
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01-20-2003, 04:14 AM | #4 | |
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How are they similar?
The only similarity I can see, is that they both have 1000hp+ 16 sylinder engines. On a racetrack, the Cadillac would downright get owned. |
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01-20-2003, 07:20 AM | #5 | |
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Probably right on that, I just thought it was neat to see cadillac come back with the V-16 engine. The original was in 1921 or something like that.
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You got to be shitting me?
Bugatti Veyron: Size: Wheelbase 2,700 millimeters, overall length 4,466 mm, width is 1,998 mm, height 1,206 mm. 1240 kg Power: 736 kW (1001 bhp) at 6000/min, 1,250 Newton-meters (922 lbs-ft of torque) at 2000-5500/min Drivetrain: Sequential DCT seven-speed gearbox, permanent all-wheel drive Cadillac Sixteen: Size: Wheelbase 3556 millimeters, overall length 5,671 mm, width is 2,029 mm, height 1391 mm. 2270 kg Power: 735 kW (1000 bhp) at n/a /min, 1355 Newton-meters (1000 lbs-ft of torque) at 4000 /min Drivetrain: Four speed "slightly modified off the GM shelf" gearbox, rear wheel drive. |
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01-20-2003, 02:25 PM | #8 | |
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I love the Caddie, but it would get it's ass handed to it by the Bugatti.
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01-20-2003, 03:41 PM | #9 | |
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it sure would, the cadillac weighs 5000lbs, i don't think the Bugatti weight is near that much.
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01-20-2003, 04:53 PM | #10 | |
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The Cadillac just simply doesn't stand a chance against the Bugatti- it's all about the power:wieght ratio
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and that "slightly modified off the shelf" automatic is likely the best 4 speed in the world, the fact its relativly unmodified is proof of that. neither of these cars would perform well enough for their pricetag/technology regardless, they're image cars. |
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01-20-2003, 07:42 PM | #12 | |
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Okay, this was a VERY uneven comparison... just because they are both V16 cars doesn't mean we should be comparing them in any way. They are in two completely different leagues.
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01-20-2003, 09:18 PM | #13 | |
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Yeah, Mainly wanting to compair motors were i think the Cadillac has the better motor b/c i has more torque and american made
Cant wait untill the 0-60mph test and top speed test comes out |
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Yes, the Veyron wil probably have less power to the wheels, but how can you seriously think the Sixteen will successfully get more power to the ground and still keep up with the Veyron? Quote:
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01-21-2003, 10:37 AM | #15 | |
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dont think the Sixteen is worth its tag? it costs 250K, the veyron is probably going to go for over a mil. what tech does it have? a 7 speed with a dual clutch? yawn, not impressive, not for 750K. the veyron also has a W engine, dynamically inferior to a V16, it requires very tight bores and thin rods to clear each other, it also requires a dual balancer to keep the NVH in check.
Should i go into the fact it runs 4 turbos and DOHC/4VPC and still produces less torque then a car thats 1/3-1/4 of its price, and is a LUXURY car? one running "old school" single cam, 2 VPC valvetrain? This car ALSO runs displacement on demand, mileage isnt a huge issue but hey, it gets more. And i suppose you weren't reading, that IS one of the best 4 speed automatics in the world, it wasnt an opinion. GM needs to learn very little about building automatics, BMW even seems to think so since the 5 speed auto in their 5 series is a GM part. . . in fact, the Sixteen is MORE worth its money since it's priced equally with its segment and competition, the veyron is attempting to be another McLaren, with VAG backing it it didn't have a chance at that from the beginning. |
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