ADAC Rallye Deutschland 2003

[-Pille-]

Sebastien won!!! Yay!!! Congrats!!!!

-Pille-

[RallyRaider]

Loeb sure cut it fine at the end. Marcus really pushed him or perhaps Seb was just demonstrating a flair for the dramatic

Closes the Championship standings up a bit. Although the guy who hasn't won anything is still comfortably in front


1. 18 LOEB-ELENA Citroen Xsa A8 3h46'50"400 102.7 km/h 1 1
2. 1 GRONHOLM-RAUTIA Peugeot 206 A8 3h46'54"000 + 00'03"60 2 2
3. 2 BURNS-REID Peugeot 206 A8 3h47'10"100 + 00'19"70 3 3
4. 17 MCRAE-RINGER Citroen Xsa A8 3h47'21"800 + 00'31"40 4 4
5. 4 MARTIN-PARK Ford Focus A8 3h47'48"300 + 00'57"90 5 5
6. 19 SAINZ-MARTI Citroen Xsa A8 3h48'29"000 + 01'38"60 6 6
7. 5 DUVAL-PREVOT Ford Focus A8 3h48'38"500 + 01'48"10 7 7
8. 7 SOLBERG-MILLS Subaru Impr A8 3h49'20"600 + 02'30"20 8 8
9. 21 ROBERT-BEDON Peugeot 206 A8 3h50'03"200 + 03'12"80 9 9
10. 3 PANIZZI-PANIZZI Peugeot 206 A8 3h50'30"000 + 03'39"60 10 10
11. 11 LOIX-SMEETS Hyundai Acc A8 3h51'46"000 + 04'55"60 11 11
12. 10 SCHWARZ- HIEMER Hyundai Acc A8 3h54'05"600 + 07'15"20 12 12
13. 6 HIRVONEN-LEHTIN Ford Focus A8 3h54'24"700 + 07'34"30 13 13
14. 34 SOHLBERG-HONKAN Mitsubishi A8 3h58'39"800 + 11'49"40 14 14
15. 22 KAHLE-GOBEL Skoda Octav A8 3h59'22"300 + 12'31"90 15 15
16. 33 TSJOEN-CHEVALLI Toyota Coro A8 4h01'43"100 + 14'52"70 16 16
17. 24 LATVALA-ANTTILA Ford Focus A8 4h01'49"000 + 14'58"60 17 17
18. 12 STOHL-MINOR Hyundai Acc A8 4h02'58"300 + 16'07"90 18 18
19. 26 WARMBOLD-PRICE Ford Focus A8 4h07'08"700 + 20'18"30 19 19
20. 27 KOPECKY-SCHOVAN Skoda Octav A8 4h10'44"800 + 23'54"40 20 20
21.101 WEVERS-POEL Toyota Coro A8 4h11'15"300 + 24'24"90 21 21
22. 52 SOLA-ROMANI Mitsubishi N4 4h11'45"900 + 24'55"50 1 1
23. 28 CSERHALMI-PALIV Ford Focus A8 4h13'00"300 + 26'09"90 22 22
24. 55 ROWE-AGNEW Subaru Impr N4 4h16'18"800 + 29'28"40 2 2
25.102 WALLENWEIN-ZEIT Mitsubishi A8 4h17'35"100 + 30'44"70 23 23
26. 61 KULIG-BURKAT Mitsubishi N4 4h18'33"300 + 31'42"90 3 3
27. 51 SINGH-OH Proton Pert N4 4h20'53"500 + 34'03"10 4 4
28. 25 DALE-BARGERY Hyundai Acc A8 4h22'38"700 + 35'48"30 24 24
29. 65 BLOMQVIST-GONI Subaru Impr N4 4h23'23"300 + 36'32"90 5 5
30.113 FRANCO-AZEVEDO Mitsubishi N4 4h28'40"200 + 41'49"80 6 6
31.108 VANWOENSEL-SNAE Mitsubishi N4 4h28'55"200 + 42'04"80 7 7
32.105 JOSTES-ENDERLE Citroen Sax A6 4h29'58"800 + 43'08"40 25 1
33.117 SOLOWOW-BARAN Mitsubishi N4 4h30'55"800 + 44'05"40 8 8
34. 80 TRIVINO-BARRABE Mitsubishi N4 4h31'18"200 + 44'27"80 9 9
35.110 GIRDAUSKAS-SHOS Mitsubishi N4 4h32'22"500 + 45'32"10 10 10
36. 72 AUR-BERGHEA Mitsubishi N4 4h37'23"900 + 50'33"50 11 11
37.114 LIEBEHENSCHEL-B Mitsubishi N4 4h39'07"900 + 52'17"50 12 12
38. 59 MARRINI-AGOSTIN Mitsubishi N4 4h42'34"400 + 55'44"00 13 13
39. 70 ERRANI-CASADIO Mitsubishi N4 4h42'34"800 + 55'44"40 14 14
40.125 FAHRNER-POSCHNE VW Polo GTI N2 4h44'37"700 + 57'47"30 15 1
41.128 PRILLWITZ-GRIMB VW Polo GTI N2 4h49'23"800 + 1h02'33" 16 2
42.124 PEETERS- LEFIN Mitsubishi N4 4h54'43"000 + 1h07'52" 17 15
43.122 HOHLHEIMER-KIPP Fiat Seicen A5 4h56'05"300 + 1h09'14" 26 1
44.129 BURGARD-SCHNEID VW Polo GTI N2 5h03'32"400 + 1h16'42" 18 3

[-Pille-]

Originally posted by RallyRaider
Although the guy who hasn't won anything is still comfortably in front

Yeah, that's the problem with the new points system - a win just doesn't matter so much anymore. Burns is a great driver but does he deserve to be on top of the leader board?

All in all Rallye Deutschland was great. I'm sad Markko had so much trouble with his Ford but what can you do. Now on to Finland...

-Pille-

[Guido]

Originally posted by huudo
Loeb. Basta!

There can only be one!

Seb did deliver, although it was a very close call at the end. Thank G. that they have communications with the rally center, so that he knew Gronholm was on a charge and in the second half of the last stage he kept his cool.

I'm wondering if Ford is going to get their act together... There's always something wrong with them. When was it that they were champion the last time... Markko is in the wrong team and Duval has still a lot to learn. Colin McCrash threw away his chances for a podium finish too.

Oh and Freddy made Armin look very week. Give da man a Pug or Citroën! I heard today that it'll depend on where Gardemeister will be going for Freddy's seat next year. If Garde goes to Pug, then Freddy to Citroën or the other way around.

[RallyRaider]

Sure you're not being just a tad biased there Guido? As I recall Loix and Schwarz were running very close for most of the rally. It wasn't until the final leg when Schwarz dropped behind with engine problems.

I have no doubt that Loix would do well in a Peugeot or Xsara however. Didn't know Toni Gardemeister was in with a shot of joining the big French teams too. He has already showed well in a Gifone Pug back in 2001. But he didn't do much when Mitsubishi gave him a chance, much like Loix...

[Guido]

of course I'm biased Phil.

I heard about Gardemeister from the secretary of Freddy's official fan-club, through my brother in law who is a true dedicated fan. Much more then I am. I think both Freddy and Tony are more confortable in short wheel based cars, like Loix did pretty well in the Corolla. When it rained in Germany he did a 3rd and 5th best time on a SS. So in the wet where the power advantage is not so big, he can keep up with the top.

We'll see how it goes.